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Beehaw* defederated us? (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] MeowdyPardner@kbin.social 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's easy to take this personally but I think it's more about the moderation tools in Lemmy not being adequate at the moment so this is the best bandaid solution for now. We need to quickly put effort into developing better moderation tools like limiting other servers without fully defederating, limiting specific communities, forcing nsfw on communities/instances, proxying reports to origin servers so admins have better feedback on their instance user's bad behavior, and many other things if we want to prevent defederating like this from being the only option.

I think infighting about this decision and differing moderation styles instead of focusing together on moderation challenges and tooling deficiencies risks tearing the community / federation apart and is counterproductive to the goal of being better than reddit.

[–] discodoubloon@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Agreed. They do deserve their own points if they want to be that type of community. I’d say for instance if places like AskHistorians arise within lemmy or kbin, federating with just those would be interesting.

There are always going to be more exclusive communities. Humans just work like that. I say we ride with it for now.

Federation should be a gradient. If they want to close themselves off why is it using ActivityPub to begin with?

[–] cloaker@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

its _ federation._ Some communities only want certain people. Once mod tools are better we will see changes. Let it grow.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I ate soup with a fork once. Was it the smartest choice...absolutely not. Did it work... sort of.