Finland might be a different story, but in Germany the Left Party is deeply devided between Russia supporters and others. It is not all the left (which is said in the video near the end) and of cause the right is much worse but it is a group too big to ignore.

[–] ananas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And if the video didn't make sweeping generalisations this would be a fine point to tackle. But it's not saying "half of the german left", it is saying "the western left".

It's not OK to leave this kind of stuff as a side note in small print, that is one of the prime tactics propaganda in general uses.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right. "The Left" is a vague term and doesn't apply here. I know such people and applied the video to them and as such it's well done but the title and framing during the video is misleading.

[–] ananas@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, if the video was less conflictory and was framed in a way that didn't scream polarisation to me, I wouldn't be as quick to dismiss it as a propaganda piece.

As a side note, I'm actually surprised that Germany has such divide within the left.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

About the side note: There are different factors at play: nostalgia about GDR, Anti-Americanism and the peace movement (not sending weapons anywhere). And I was especially talking about the party "Die Linke" (The Left). Other parties like the Social Democrates and The Green (both part of the government) disagree on that.

There are ML and tanky organistations outside of parliament. But I think the biggest organized left movement at the moment in Germany is the climate justice movement, which is very decentralized but I think most are against Russia. I might be biased though since I'm part of this movement.