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[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Edit: Title has fortunately been changed from the original clickbaity and somewhat misleading/offensive title it originally had.

Why is this being shared here? Anti-trans folk are toxic. There are many toxic women and men, and we should dislike them for their views, not who they are. I've fallen out with anti-trans friends, but I'm a cis-male so I guess I'm the problem?

I was curious about this community, but I think I'll be leaving if this "feminist" "Men's Liberation" community is for bashing men. Would have expected better from a mod.

Rule 9 is against "Negative stereotyping", surely this is a breach of that. This article takes some folk, makes a generalisation for the whole population. If you flipped groupings, it would be wholly wrong, and it's wrong here.

[–] spaduf 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

This response to articles about polling and demographic data will never not strike me as extremely weird. Nobody is, by any means, generalizing men any more than the data itself would show. Note the article does not attempt to establish or perpetuate any stereotypes about men as a group, it is a fairly straightforward reading of the polling data. If it's the headline that bothers you I have to ask why? It does not make any generalized claims about men that are not backed up by self-reported polling. I hate to keep having this fight, but this is increasingly becoming an issue and poses a threat to constructive discussion.

EDIT: If you are not certain why it is notable that men are the drivers of transphobia in this instance it is because most of the transphobic rhetoric in the country relies on claims of protecting women's rights and spaces.

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