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[โ€“] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They've been saying shit since he got elected. Like honestly, shit or get off the pot.

[โ€“] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, you can't arrest a sitting president, and Senate was majority Republican and they tow the party line so yeah most Democrats could do was impeach and let the Republicans bail him out

But now he's not president, and has to face the courts as a citizen. The investigators aren't going to rush a case like this, but you also can't risk it going over to the election before getting a conviction. Honestly the timing on all this seems pretty on point

[โ€“] dudinax@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A sitting president has been arrested

[โ€“] nachobel@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[โ€“] Especially_the_lies@startrek.website 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, Ulysses S. Grant was arrested for riding his horse recklessly through the streets of DC. He was arrested, fined, and released. This happened while he was president. However, since it was a minor incident in the grand scheme of things, it isn't really a precedent to hang your hat on.

And he applauded the cop that did it, because he was right.

Of course, Grant had one of the most corrupt administrations in US governmental history, but, ya know.

He wasn't that kind of asshole.

Just appointed a bunch of relatives to positions they didn't deserve at taxpayer expense, openly profiteered, and sold access to his position, policies, and pardons.

Hey, wait a minute...

[โ€“] dudinax@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

U S Grant was arrested while in office. The arrest did not lead to a constitutional crisis.

[โ€“] BigNote@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

True, but the consensus among legal scholars is that it's not a binding precedent. I don't remember the reasoning behind it.

[โ€“] Perfide@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Criminal investigations take time under the best of circumstances. These are not the best of circumstances.

It's not the investigators who are creating the hype, it's the media. And the media does it because the think it sells. 'Effin BBC had live coverage of this dude arriving to his last court hearing, including his plane landing, wtf?! Who watches this shit in a country which has nothing to do with that idiot?

[โ€“] Elivey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Murder investigations can take years to get the person responsible on for trial even when in hindsight the evidence makes it seem obvious who did it.

This isn't a murder obviously but it is multiple messy messy cases with lots of moving delicate parts that as people who have never done a criminal investigation can't even imagine. I wouldn't want to rush into a case and end up bungling it because I didn't take my time.

[โ€“] kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

real life isn't Suits where charges are brought and a week later you are in a court.

also Suits had less fascism than thebUS has currently