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I don't know whether github actions output can be tampered with by you, but the only actually reliable way (that I know of) to prove that your binaries correspond to a certain state of the sourcecode is to support reproducible builds (See e.g. https://reproducible-builds.org/).
All other methods require trust (in either the developer or w.r.t. github actions towards github).
The drawback is of course, that to verify whether your binaries are good, someone needs to rebuild the software, but it is a good tool to build and maintain trust in your signed binaries, especially if they deal with sensitive information like private keys.
An important point to add for someone who hasn't heard of reproducible builds before: The key difference to a normal build process is that it is 100% deterministic i.e. it produces exactly the same output every time.
You might think that most built processes would be like this by default, however this is not the case. Compilers and linkers usually have some non-deterministic values that they put in the final binary such as timestamps. For a build to be deterministic these sources of variation must be disabled or mocked to be a repeatable value (i.e. not based on the actual compile time).
True, while I think the page that I linked explains the concept well, it might not be easy to digest for someone who is new to software development.
But then again, if you handle cryptographic materiel, you better learn fast 😃
Yeah that site is pretty good. There's a lot of information though. I think a good starting point is maybe this page: https://reproducible-builds.org/docs/env-variations/
Yeah, this topic would actually lend itself to an intro video which demonstrates the problem on a tiny project.
Unfortunately given how hard reproducible builds are they aren't done much, and aren't talked about much. A vicious cycle. A nice short video would indeed be helpful for understand and awareness.