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Most of the time when people say they have an unpopular opinion, it turns out it's actually pretty popular.

Do you have some that's really unpopular and most likely will get you downvoted?

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[โ€“] xyproto@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (10 children)

It's the truth, though. Humans create hierarchies whenever they sre in a group, explicit or not. Also, working without any incentive to do better only works for so long.

[โ€“] KrimsonBun@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

because people would only want to improve their society and help eachother if they're being paid for it?

[โ€“] DzikiMarian@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I've no problem improving society just for the sake of it, given that everybody else also does. Sadly any bigger group of people will start getting freeloaders and I'm allergic for such BS.

[โ€“] KrimsonBun@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's freeloaders right now. This system doesn't solve the problem. What difference does it make?

[โ€“] DzikiMarian@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right now my life is significantly better than someone who decides to live on government welfare.

30 something years ago, when we had socialism in my country it didn't matter if you worked, got drunk or slept at work. Everybody had the same shitty flat and the same shitty products (assuming there were products at all).

This system has a lot of problems, but socialism sucked indefinitely more.

[โ€“] oatscoop@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is people think capitalism, socialism, and even communism are mutually exclusive. They're all tools, and like any tool they're better for some jobs than others.

Trying to make a society work using just one across the board is doomed to failure. As is failing to impliment and update safeguards against disparities in equity and power.

[โ€“] KrimsonBun@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I agree with you, most if not all of the former socialist countries are doing better in most metrics now a days. I am not a socialist and do not advocate for it under almost any circumstance. I advocate for the abolition of the state, I want everyone to live a comfortable life, doing what they enjoy, without having to struggle to get to the end of the month. There will be freeloaders, but if that means that people in need can live a life just as well as anyone else I think its worth it.

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