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[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I couldn’t have designed a costlier setup with worse results for everyone if I’d tried

You severely underestimate the costs of effective special education schools. In general, dedicated special education is more expensive than embedding care in general schools. What you saw was a cost cutting measure, and the student and teachers in that class paid the price.

What is cheaper is basically warehousing disabled students until they turn 18 without making any effort to teach them anything. That’s undoubtedly going to be the next step.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A dedicated teacher per disabled pupil seems pretty far from warehousing them. One teacher for the other 45… that’s closer to “warehousing” in my opinion.

If you’re to dedicate a single teacher to every disabled student, that’s pretty extraordinary resourcing by public school standards. But dropping that into an already crowded classroom and expecting the kid to consume the same curriculum in the same way… that’s just madness born of some zeal for equality.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not sure what you saw exactly, or how it’s formally arranged in your country. Over here we’re transitioning from dedicated facilities to regular classrooms. The pupils get additional support, but a) that’s not a teacher, there are no formal qualifications required and b) the support generally not full time. The amount of support depends on the needs, but unless there are serious physical issues it’s hard to get more than 12 hours per week.

But dropping that into an already crowded classroom and expecting the kid to consume the same curriculum in the same way… that’s just madness born of some zeal for equality.

The zeal for equality is the marketing line. Believe it or not, the bean counters did the math and figured out it was cheaper, at least in the short term, to ruin 34 other people’s education than to give that man a place in an environment where he can thrive.

[–] beigegull@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The zeal for equality is the marketing line. Believe it or not, the bean counters did the math and figured out it was cheaper, at least in the short term

That'd be less bad if this particular educational structure wasn't getting mandated as a "legal right to equal education", with any alternate structure being fought at every step by an array of institutional forces.