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[–] papabobolious@feddit.nu 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I don't necessarily agree with the guys techniques, I think the putting yourself before everyone else attitude that is the cause of this behaviour is actually s big problem that causes all manner of other problems down the line. If people respect their fellow peoples society will function much better.

[–] OddFed@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is that it's absolutely illusory that we as humans evolve beyond that. Everyone behaves like this in one way or another. It is heavily based on our subjective standpoint.

In this case it's shopping carts. In your case it's (probably) eating meat. In my case it's using a lot of electricity. In your neighbor's case ...

So, now we can pick out scapegoats and collapse on them, or we can think about solutions that accept this fact.

Hint, if that person put that energy to promote a pledge based system he wouldn't have to make a clown out of himself and make people angry for no reason. He would solve the issue profoundly without having to constantly fight senslessly.

[–] Necronomicommunist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is that it's absolutely illusory that we as humans evolve beyond that

Sounds like that makes it important for us to focus on it, culturally.

[–] OddFed@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely agree. It's just about "how". Do you think that clown show in the video is in any way constructive?

[–] Necronomicommunist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indirectly, yes. He's ridiculous, but by engaging with him everyone in the video (the people not returning the carts) looks ridiculous.

I don't watch enough to see if there's people who do return them, but I imagine they look a lot more normal than the alternative.

[–] OddFed@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if people return them, it does not help the case in any way. They do it now, yes. The other "shopping cart terrorists" are totally unaffected. Also the majority of those who returned the cart will eventually go back to not returning it.

This is not a profound solution. This is just a clown show for social media.

[–] Necronomicommunist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's weird you're putting the words "profound solution" in my mouth, but you do you.

[–] OddFed@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago