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A helpful resource I've been referencing for a while now. Thought this community might be able to put some of this knowledge to use when debating others on the merits of socialism (friendly debates of course ๐Ÿ˜‰)

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[โ€“] Laconic@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't really like the explanation for Tu Quoque. Tu Quoque is an appeal to hypocrisy. For instance you want me to believe in climate change, but you drive a car or Al Gore flies private jets.

Whether or not something is true doesn't require the person telling you about it to have a lifestyle that's perfectly aligned with that information. You can be a hypocrite and correct. I would prefer to be a correct hypocrite than an incorrect non-hypocrite. At least the hypocrite knows there's something that needs to be done.

I also prefer false choice or false dichotomy over black and white for that one, but that's just me being picky. Black and white is just as good a descriptor for it. I do really like the infographic. It's nice to have them all in one place.

[โ€“] brewvarlet@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like your description of tu quoque better. I admit some of the examples on the graphic are a bit silly.

[โ€“] Laconic@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Most of them are fine. I'm just particular about Tu Quoque. I bring that one out alot since arguing with climate deniers is a bobby of mine. They love to appeal to hypocrisy.