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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Lt_Worf@lemmy.ca to c/memes@lemmy.ml
 
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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

English verbiage can also a source of frustration for English learners.

For instance, you can chop a tree down. Once you're done, you can chop a tree up.

Imagine the confusion this causes lol.

I do agree though that the general lack of gender for most uses are really useful. It makes learning other languages more difficult though (basically all other languages).

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's just you.
In Germany we need to think about the position of the peer and if professional or casual.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, the word "you" is a good example as well.

The only issue with "you" is that it lacks a plural version so we have to use the Southern "y'all" instead. Some people go even further with a mass plural "all y'all".

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

the all y'all sounds fun

[–] ArmoredUrethra@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yinz is my preferred term, if we're going for regional words.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"All of you." More unwieldy, but doesn't sound rustic.

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Virtually all known languages do this, only some do it through the use of grammar.

This thread is full of bad linguistics.

[–] uberrice@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

This also happens in English, by selection of the words you use. Using Du und Sie is fairly simple in comparison. Strangers, last name basis, or professional? Sie. Kids, friends, talking to people out drinking on a friendly basis? Du.

The whole 'position of peer' thing has a lot more nuances in Japanese, and even that's not too hard once you get the hang of it.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For instance, you can chop a tree down. Once you’re done, you can chop a tree up.

Imagine the confusion this causes lol.

This is an absolutely minor thing, and it is also a phenomenon which occurs in basically all other languages.