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[–] Notnotmike@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do you have a source for the founder claims? I'm no fan of Brave but that's an intense back story if true

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Notnotmike@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for the link! I realize it's very much a LMGTFY situation, but I prefer to have the person making the claim provide the source because it puts us on equal ground of having the same source of information. From the article it's clear that I could have looked up any right-wing article and found information to the contrary and we'd be in different contexts.

Now, that being said, for anyone else coming to the thread, I recommend you read the whole article. But the TL;DR is that Eich was made CEO of Mozilla in 2014, which caused increased optics on his $1,000 contribution to Proposition 8, a California initiative to ban gay marriage in the state. Because of this, and because of his failure to diffuse the situation, he was removed as CEO shortly after. He was offered a high-ranking position at the company but declined.

So, I would say he definitely has (had?) some close-minded views on gay marriage, however, he never publicly stated anything, but instead made a public donation that was "found out" by investigation, not because he outwardly publicized it. In fact, the article (and apparently Eich and his employees) makes it clear that he never let the viewpoint affect him professionally. But, it did make many of his co-workers uncomfortable and feel unwelcome in the Mozilla community, especially having someone hold those opinions so high up in the corporate chain.

I just wanted to make sure the context was all straight here. I don't agree with his close-minded views, I'm glad he was removed as CEO, and it's another reason that I don't want to use the Brave browser (assuming his views haven't changed). But, I just want to make sure I had the whole picture

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol why are you making this a political beliefs things. There are so many things in this post I disagree with but I got better things to do with my time.

[–] Notnotmike@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You made it political, not me? I'm responding to you not using Brave at least in part due to the founder's political beliefs

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gay marriage isn't a political view

[–] UnhealthyPersona@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

But in the US it unfortunately is. The right has made it a political "stance" while it's just a matter of human rights. It shouldn't be political, but it is and it pisses me off

[–] mikarv@someone.elses.computer 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Notnotmike pretty well-known! also OKCupid started warning Mozilla users about it based on HTTP headers which was an interesting form of protest https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26868536

[–] Notnotmike@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I read about that in the article the other commenter posted! The article also mentioned that, once he was removed as CEO, some right-wing websites, namely something called "RedState", just outright blocked FireFox users in a counter-protest.

"We wanted to remind people that the totalitarian impulse of the Mozilla corporation is real," said right-wing site RedState on April 8 after blocking access by Firefox users.