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browsing through All has so much pro-fascist posts coming from lemmygrad that it drowns out all the other instances. I'm surprised they're even federated by default but we should have an option to block instances from All if lemmy is deadset on federating with them just because they are fascists with a red and yellow flag...

(before the Tankies start posting about how they aren't pro-fascism "Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy" which all describe the Z movement in Russia they gleefully support in multiple posts)

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[–] uthredii@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The views on lemmygrad are very much outside the general acceptable norms for the English speaking internet.

Even if you agree with their views, you must admit that it is very off putting for most people who come to Lemmy.ml.

I think the purpose of a default instance should be to showcase the software, not to showcase the current community (which is dominated by lemmygrad users right now)..

I think either:

  1. We should have a new default instance.
  2. Have no default instance.
  3. Lemmy.ml should stop federating with lemmygrad.

Personally I have been using and promoting Lemmy less because I find the lemmygrad content off putting. I feel a similar way about this content as I did about place like r/thedonald in 2016.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

The views on lemmygrad are very much outside the general acceptable norms for the English speaking internet.

why should we care what anglos like?

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

The views on lemmygrad are very much outside the general acceptable norms for the English speaking internet.

Sorry, what? Why should that matter?

Even if you agree with their views, you must admit that it is very off putting for most people who come to Lemmy.ml.

We target a specific niche. You're entirely free to use an instance that better suits your views, and introduce other instances to your friends that better suit their views.

Have no default instance.

There is already no default instance. Lemmy.ml has a lot of users, but that's it. We have been explicitly saying that it's not the default instance for a while now.

[–] nxlemmy@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think lemmy should be the default because its where the developers are, and its users are pro-anarchist and pro-communist. but it should stop federating with lemmygrad because of the constant admiration for fascists (they dont support fascism in general but they do support fascists as long as they see them as "anti-west")

[–] graphito@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's the thing, devs are not just "located" at lemmy.ml, devs run lemmy.ml; they do run it the way they want.

If you and I don't agree with this administration style, rather than change devs for who they are as people, we're better off to promote communities (hence making them default) which we want to be a part of AND still be grateful for the work devs do for us all.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

how do you make them the default, when you don't control it?

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We should have a new default instance.

There should be no default instance. That just leads to people all collecting on a single instance.

Have no default instance.

There already is no default instance. lemmy.ml isn't an instance that aims to be for everyone.

Lemmy.ml should stop federating with lemmygrad.

If you don't like them federating with that particular instance you may want to look at other instances that better fit you.

The only thing that I think could be changed is the name of lemmy.ml. Its name and the fact that it is the biggest instance may lead to the false conclusion that it is in some way supposed to be the default instance. Maybe join-lemmy.org should be modified a bit to suggest a lot more random instances.

Maybe for the "All" there could be a sort type made available that favours posts coming from less active instances. That could make the smaller instances more popular (favouring decentralization), and reduce the by some excessive perceived noise that may come from some instances in the all tab.