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browsing through All has so much pro-fascist posts coming from lemmygrad that it drowns out all the other instances. I'm surprised they're even federated by default but we should have an option to block instances from All if lemmy is deadset on federating with them just because they are fascists with a red and yellow flag...

(before the Tankies start posting about how they aren't pro-fascism "Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy" which all describe the Z movement in Russia they gleefully support in multiple posts)

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[–] nxlemmy@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

that is not a solution. the main mastodon instance didnt continue to federate with gab etc and tell people to change instances. because the default instance shouldn't federate with pro-fascist instances. We shouldn't federate with them by default and if lemmy.ml is deadset on federating with them because they hide their fascism under a communist flag users should atleast be able to block the instance

[–] Amicchan@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

because the default instance shouldn’t federate with pro-fascist instances.

Uh, lemmy.ml admins blocks fascist instances.

[–] nxlemmy@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

look at how much lemmygrad defends and promotes fascism via supporting the Z army\war etc. it's a pro-fascist and anti-anarchist instance that isn't blocked and is taking over the all section with their pro-fascist propaganda.

[–] Amicchan@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Uh, pretty sure they ban Nazis at the door. Also how the hell are they "pro-fascist"?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago

Westerners really need to learn what fascism actually is.

[–] nxlemmy@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Did you read the post? Or any of my comments in the thread? They constantly support the Z army and their invasion of ukraine. The current government of Russia ticks every box in the definition of Fascism, outlaws being gay, decriminalized domestic abuse, and funds far-right and christian nationalist fascists around the world like the US did to Latin American countries dozens of times.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

anti-anarchist

every principled communist can be anti-anarchist

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

We ban fascists, we are anti anarchist

[–] lisko@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Catradora_Stalinism@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, supporting the death of fascists and the extermination of their ideology from humanity makes me a fascist

how very smart of you!

[–] Ninmi@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

One of the biggest, if not the biggest benefits of federation is that you can easily change administrators while staying on the same network.

Only Gargron wants to run a flagship instance. Lemmy devs have made it very clear their instance has certain specific purposes and that they don't intend it to be the main instance. I'm just wondering if we should remove the invite-request friction for a little while in Beehaw and Sopuli to take the weight off of lemmy.ml and so that the admins there can keep federating with Lemmygrad if they really wish.

It would probably be best to recreate some of the communities made in lemmy.ml elsewhere and actually contribute there. I really think your best bet is to just contribute elsewhere.

[–] graphito@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago

Currently there's this message coming from admins that lemmy.ml is no longer flagship instance.

I totally support blocking instances but while this feature is unavailable, we can help build new flagship instance.

I'm sorry if I sounded too rush, it is indeed not a solution, just a workaround for current situation.

Anyways, thank you for raising important questions, cheers

[–] Awoo@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's not a default instance and comparing a communist site like lemmygrad to a site utterly dominated by actual fascists like gab is the stupidest thing I've seen this week.

[–] lisko@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Actually that is the solution. lemmy.ml won't block lemmygrad because the same people are behind both so the two instances are together. Even if you block lemmygrad there are users who know it's blocked and so they make accounts on lrmmy.ml where they know they'll have a larger audience and also sympathetic admins will back them up. Here you can't tell the truth about any communist government past or present.

Lemmy was designed to be federated. Federation is the main solution to these types of problems. Nobody needs to feel like they have to use lemmy.ml

However I also agree with your feature request. It would be useful.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Here you can’t tell the truth about any communist government past or present.

we are telling the truth about them, you just spout propaganda

[–] _ed@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago

This is the solution. If you are wanting to block a whole swathe of content youre on the wrong instance.