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Democrats worry their most loyal voters won’t turn out for Biden in 2024
(www.washingtonpost.com)
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I've heard that one before, but if more people voted for their best interest instead of being feared and shamed into voting for a compromise then that wouldn't be true. Be the change you wanna see my friend, if you can't do it no one will. It's not my fault the system is broken, and I'm allowed to vote for my best interest. If you dislike that my vote is not as impactful to you maybe you should do something to change the system because im satisfied voting 3rd party until the cows come home, because it will never be a viable choice if people continue to not vote third party.
A lot of you are acting like lesser evilism isn't exactly how we ended up choosing between a fascist and someone who's too afraid to fight fascism. You think you're gonna 'leaser evil' you're way out of the problem that it caused?
Throwing away your vote and enabling a potential dictator is the opposite of being the change you want to see. It's enabling the change you don't want
A key part of that philosophy is efficacy of action
The only thing that enables Trump is people who vote for him and the media that give him free press 24/7 for everything he does. He's not even the incumbent wouldn't I be enbaling Biden with a third party vote? Or is it Im always enabling whoever you think is worse if I vote third party? Your logic doesn't hold up. Either I'm enabling them both or neither. Because I'm not voting for either of them. All you have is the parroted arguemnts that can't survive a simple logic test.
At the end of the day, you are required to either eat a shit sandwich or a stale chocolate chip cookie. You can eat a peanut butter cookie that isn't stale, but at the end of the day if you haven't chosen between the only 2 actual choices, then someone else is going to decide for you, and there's a very good chance that you're going to end up with a mouth full of shit. "But I chose the peanut butter cookie!" Yeah, well why is your mouth full of shit?
"simple logic test" lol
It's fine man the world can do without you being a smart person
Tell me how it's enabling Trump if Biden is the incumbent? How come a third party vote always enables whoever you think is scarier no matter whos in office or if there is no incumbent? Because its not based on logic it's based on fear. You've yet to use anything that resembles logic and instead go to name calling because you have no arguement at this point.
Idk why you think not voting helps the incumbent specifically, but that's wrong
You're welcome to stand by your ideals, but FPTP will always boil down to a two-party system. If voting for a third party makes you feel better, go for it, but that's all that it will accomplish.
Voting third party demonstrably does not change the system, at least in the US. Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't think of any voter reform legislation that's been actually advanced by third parties. Just one example, ranked Choice Voting in Maine wasn't caused by third party candidates in office, it was a ballot initiative. And not to simp for corporate scumbags, but least the Democrats support the Voting Rights Act and oppose closing voting stations in black neighborhoods.
Voting for a compromise is voting for one's best interest for a lot of people. If the options are vote for harm, vote for harm reduction, or vote for someone who will not win, at least the people I know in marginalized communities vote for harm reduction. Because for a lot of them, the consequence of a conservative government is immediate real threats to their safety.
Marginalized voters not showing up for Biden is exactly what this article is about, don't use them as propaganda for your own beliefs about voting.
You're clinging to a pipe dream. People like you are how we end up with Trump.