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[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is all about having a thin veneer of reasoning, no matter how wrong, it always is. So now they can advance to the next wrong thing with this new justification in their toolbox.

I'll say it again, but you can have a look at basically any position held by modern conservatives, anything, and it always end up being very wrong, based on paper-thin arguments. This is how they ended up with their own alternative reality, one very wrong conclusion at a time, wrapped in a thin argument. Conservative don't care to look pas the conclusion, some are in it for themselves, but I think most are just morons.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly, and all you have to do is look to this thing in Hawaii, and compare it with what is going on now.

While I'm sure that there were some in Hawaii who wanted to StOp ThE cOuNt while their candidate was leading, there seemed to be a genuine desire to find the true outcome, and a recognition that the problems were due to error and not fraud. (This was their first Presidential election since becoming a state in 1959). Then, when the outcome became apparent, all sides acknowledged it, even the side that lost. (But it should be noted that Hawaii's 3 EC votes would not have made a difference to the outcome, and maybe Tricky Dick would have done something different if it had.)

The modern Conservative movement is rudderless, it has no direction other than amassing power and subjugating people who dont agree with them. (And that's more than my opinion; they never bothered to make a platform in 2020 other than shouting "America First!"). Anyone who acts with the same integrity as the Republicans in Hawaii back then would be immediately called "RINOs" and have a ton of fundraising aimed toward a primary opponent. They would be accused of "helping the enemy", even though we're all Americans here, whether we're model Conservatives or not.