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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you please provide specific items Trump did that made any of those places better.

[–] Koffiato@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By.., not being there? Interfering less? The worst the army did was to left behind ammunition for Taliban to take in Afghanistan.

Compare and contrast this to one of the major reasons for Syrian conflict and complete chaos it (US) brought to Iraq; that's nothing.

[–] zouden@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Afghanistan is pretty fucked now because of the Taliban

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  • 22 years of invasion, slaughter, and continuous violent occupation by the world's most prolific warmonger

Fine. Cool. Incredibly good, aktuly.

  • 1.5 years of religious conservatives reclaiming a nation that's been deliberately bankrupted by the departing occupation army

Y'all, I found your problem.

[–] zouden@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you seriously think people are better off in Afghanistan now? Fucking hell you're deluded.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it will take a generation to repair all the damage that the country suffered since the 2002 invasion and occupation. Getting out from under an occupation government that regularly dropped bombs and mortars across its surface, sent in teams of assassins to execute local leadership, and looted the treasure for two decades running was a necessary first step to recovery. But it won't be any kind of place you'd want to live, any more than Iran was after the '79 revolution or Vietnam was once Ford finally pulled us out of Saigon. It will take a generation or more to repair the damage, assuming some new assholes don't invade again.

[–] zouden@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Taliban banned girls from going to school. That's going to take more than a generation to fix. Do you think it's the fault of the US?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Americans bombed schools.

[–] zouden@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mate if you think the Americans are as bad as the Taliban then you are fucking deluded. Take your blinkers off.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we're just doing a body count, Americans are two orders of magnitude worse.

[–] zouden@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm talking about women's basic rights such as education.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] zouden@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think that's comparable? Honest question. If you think an accidental bombing of a bus is comparable to the deliberate closure of all schools then you simply have an agenda and not interested in legitimate discourse. I'm not engaging with your propaganda.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you think an accidental bombing of a bus

The bombing was entirely intentional. The explosives didn't deploy due to operator error.

I’m not engaging with your propaganda.

You're clearly engaging with someone's

[–] Koffiato@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Almost as if US fueled it all by breaking the existing government to break down huh