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[–] VaidenKelsier@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Look, anyone with a working brain should be worried about the prospect, because if he wins, then that means we're in for the worst four years (and probably much longer than four years) of our lives here in the United States. I don't think we come back from that.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (33 children)

If Trump wins re-election, I think it's entirely non-hyperbolic to say that democracy in this country is over. Think of the things he tried to do with some, obviously-too-small, guard rails. He attempted a literal coup. Literally throw away votes. Literally has one of his chief advisors saying that if people protested said coup, they would use the insurrection act, or more directly, use the military to put down to put down those protesting the coup. There is a very small number of things that prevented this from happening, not the least of which is just a tiny handful of people being like "uh, we can't actually do this, right?"

[–] demlet@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I don't entirely disagree, but it's also true that Trump exposed some serious flaws in our political system, and that serious people have been working very hard since Jan 6th to make it much harder to do what he and his cohorts did. One example would be the supreme court victory that struck down a proposed law that would have allowed state congresses to ignore election results. Not saying everything's okay now, but maybe it's not quite so dire. Of course, most democratic coups happen when an individual or group just decides they won't follow the rules anymore, so there is that little problem with trying to litigate ourselves out of this mess.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Most distressingly, he learned that he has a literal mob/cult willing to stand behind him and do anything he tells them to, no matter how abhorrent.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Correct. Can't let it happen.

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[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

We haven't come back from his actual four years yet, and probably won't for a very long time. The prospect of him returning to finish the country off is a nightmare.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (36 children)

Not just for you guys but the world. The world as we know it is at stake as USA is currently the world's superpower.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

So, so sorry about that.

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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

And outside the US. With Trump, russia might even try to take a bite out of NATO