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The memes of the climate

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The climate of the memes of the climate!

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[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine instead of buying a wheelbarrow and shovel to do some yard work, you go to the gardening library and checkout the things you need.

I get the sentiment but that sounds awful. Do I need to go borrow a mountain bike every time I want to go for a ride which I now do about 3 times a week? What about my hobby as a maker? Do I need to go borrow all the necessary tools every time I want to build something?

This would basically mean that I get almost nothing done ever because when the inspiration strikes my tools are nowhere to be found.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No not at all! Instead of thinking about this as the only way to get things, think about how you get things now. Just replace stores with libraries. You can own things that you use regularly (basically through an indefinite borrow from the transportation library), but borrow other things as needed

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can already go to a library and borrow a power tool or a shovel though. No need to end capitalism to do that.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's great! I'm willing to bet that they call it "the library of things", right? Yes, these everything libraries exist already in a small and limited capacity, generally serving a small area. The reason I brought it up is because the library economy is an alternative to capitalism in seeking solutions for climate change.

The reason capitalism would need to end is because capitalism is all about growth for the sake of growth; the ideology of cancer. This means that capitalists aren't happy with creating what's necessary, they want to manufacture as much as possible as cheaply as possible to get all of the money. If a library economy exists beside capitalism, it will be attacked and eroded endlessly. Just look at the publishing industry's attack on libraries for digital media. They're creating artificial scarcity on digital goods, something that is literally unbound by quantity.

[–] infectoid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Only just discovered the concept now in this thread but I guess it’d work like any other library. You’d just check out the stuff you need that you choose not to own for what ever reason.

If you want to own a mountain bike because you would use it regularly then that would be fine. But if you need a drill press for a project you can go check one out.

Just guessing here as I’ve done no reading on this subject.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's exactly right! Library economics are incredibly simple. You own what you want to own, and borrow what you need

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does it handle things that are borrowed more than they're returned?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Assuming you aren't talking about consumable items, then the library would get more from manufacturing them. A library economy doesn't mean we stop all production, we just produce what's needed and distribute them to libraries. This has major advantages, like essentially eliminating waste from overproduction, permanently ending planned obsolescence and the incentive to create more durable items, fosters community cohesion, and a lot more. Here's a more thorough introduction to the topic through the lens of political anarchism, though it could exist in any leftist economy

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I'm still skeptical of the idea, but I'll give that a watch when I have time.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm really having a hard time differentiating this from the current system... You can already own things and already rent things, and already check things out from libraries. Is it about spreading the cost of having/maintaining those items across everyone instead of just the ones using them like in a rental system?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The reason it's different is because it replaces the other 2 methods serving capital with the 1 option that serves the community. It's more like a store where you don't buy anything, but then give those items to the community when you no longer need them. Buy? Rent? Why do those things when you could borrow from the community, help improve it, and then return it to the community? Having a picnic next to the lake? Borrow a cooler for a day! Need to drive across the country? Borrow an electric car for a year! Need something at all times, like a cellphone or a washing machine? Borrow it indefinitely!

Instead of overproducing items at the expense of killing us all in climate crisis, a library economy produces what's necessary and lets the people decide what's best for the items through direct democracy and electing library stewards to handle the operation of the library. Nothing is commoditized, nothing prevents you from owning things, and nothing prevents you from building your own things. It incentivizes highly durable, repairable items. It creates the foundation for mutualism and helping each other. Most importantly to me, it creates a society where we no longer have to consider money while also enriching our lives.