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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not an op-ed, it's just reporting on the study and reactions to it. The whole article is barely six paragraphs long and doesn't get into any editorializing. The survey also says about a third still haven't made up their mind.

And if you're going to spout of reasons why this is the case, it would be great if you would have something concrete to back up your assertion beyond your gut telling you this is the case. Do you have statistics about how much exposure the average teenage boy has to radical feminists?

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s not an op-ed

It's literally in the "Opinion" section of the Guardian's website.

Do you have statistics about how much exposure the average teenage boy has to radical feminists?

No, not on hand. This is just my opinion, but the author of the op-ed above even suggests feminist slogans might be part of the reason why the data from the study looks the way it does. Teenage boys are at least as exposed to social media as the rest of us (or do I need an official study to make that claim too?), so I think it's safe to assume they're exposed to posts about "toxic masculinity," "mansplaining," "manspreading," "#yesallmen," "ironic misandry," and articles like this and this.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why did you put quotes around toxic masculinity?

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be pejorative of course, most of those are objectively actual things. It's like when I say they're entitled to their "opinion" I'm actually implying they don't know asshole from elbow.

[–] Zengen@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This right here. People like you that push that shit at teenage boys. This is why they are turning right. I know a lot of people who flipped parties purely cuz they can't stand that sort of bullshit. Or that flipped because they are wick and tired of every straight white guy being called a racist. We are all pissed that our parents and grandparents fucked up the system with their apathy and blind trust in institutions that fucked us over.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I didn't push anything, can you two not read a username?

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, I'm sure you realize you'll be taken less seriously when you take such a broadly mocking approach up front and then only temper it when asked. You sound a bit like the feminists you're criticizing.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at usernames, prepare yourself.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Look at usernames,

I really should.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve actually read the very short article and the author’s opinion isn’t mentioned. It cites opinions of other people a lot, which would explain it being in op ed.

Did we read the same thing?