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A district judge in Wisconsin has sided with an 11-year-old trans girl over her use of the girls’ toilets and temporarily blocked school officials from preventing her access.

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[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why would they need to go through puberty? Did you not know what gender you were before puberty?

Plus, if you figure out you're trans (or might be trans) that young, you'd usually take puberty blockers explicitly to delay puberty until you're a bit older and doctors can be more certain, at which point HRT can be started. Puberty blockers are very safe and reversible, unlike puberty (whether natural puberty or HRT puberty).

[–] SmurfDotSee@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would they need to go through puberty

Because MASSIVE hormonal and neurological changes happen with puberty.

It's like the most drastic change of your body and mind that most people will ever experience in their lives.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the idea is to take someone who knows they're trans and force permanent irreversible changes on them just for the joy of being cruel to children instead of just forestalling puberty with a reversible treatment.

[–] SmurfDotSee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

someone who knows

Call me EXTREMELY skeptical that anyone knows fuck about anything before puberty, let alone their lifelong gender, sexuality, or anything else concerning the things that hormones change.

reversible treatment.

This is a total bullshit statement. We don't know the long-term effects of puberty blocking, for this particular purpose. There's plenty of studies that show the bone density is fucked up after, if they choose not to fully transition. Plenty of other side effects that may not be reversible, but we don't know because it hasn't been studied enough.

So no. I call bullshit on that.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Puberty blockers are very safe and reversible

This is 100% incorrect btw.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/puberty-blockers-not-so-reversible-after-all/

https://wng.org/roundups/study-effects-of-puberty-blockers-can-last-a-lifetime-1617220389

https://www.worldtribune.com/we-were-wrong-canadian-doctor-says-puberty-blockers-not-safe-or-reversible/

https://www.transgendertrend.com/nhs-no-longer-puberty-blockers-reversible/

The FDA doesn't even approve puberty blockers for "gender affirmation".

You can't just "pause" puberty and then go through it years later completely unaffected. That's not how it works.

[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's see...

Right-wing rag, right-wing rag that has the phrase "Biblical truth" in its slogan, right-wing rag pushing vaccine conspiracies and transphobia on its front page, aaand... anti-trans hate group.

Your bias is showing.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My “bias” was literally go to google and search, then grab the ones that had studies and scientists/doctors backing them up. The NHS no longer says that puberty blockers are reversible. It doesn’t matter what site reports it, they’re reporting facts.

What I take from this is that you know they’re right, you just want to deflect because you have no actual response.

[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net -1 points 1 year ago

Nah, you just grabbed whatever shitty articles backed up your existing viewpoint because if you'd bothered to do any actual research you'd have seen that at worst there's a hell of a lot more nuance than the anti-trans bigotry you spewed all over the thread:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-the-science-on-gender-affirming-care-for-transgender-kids-really-shows/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9793415/

https://www.healthline.com/health/are-puberty-blockers-reversible

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075

Oh, and please note that my sources are from official government sources and peer-reviewed journals, not transphobic right-wing rags that are pushing agendas.