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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's about to change. After finding out the vast minority, if not all, car manufacturer were found cheating emissions tests, diesel car usage has been limited and production stopped, or will stop in the near future.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s about to change. After finding out the vast minority, if not all, car manufacturer were found cheating emissions tests, diesel car usage has been limited and production stopped, or will stop in the near future.

i'm aware of volkwagen and co. doing this; what other manufacturers have been caught?

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were all basically at it, it's the only way the emissions and performance numbers could be hit.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

does that mean no one's been caught doing it?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Many have been caught. Not all of them have made a big deal about it.

You simply cannot build a compliant engine without cheating. The fight has gone to the courts to find out what kind of cheating is permissible...

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

No. Simply that Volkswagen, then another company was caught, then they went after all of them and they all admitted before they could look into each individual company.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Basically all of them have cheated. You needed good emission test results, but without having a miracle idea that evaded everyone else in the business you simply had no competitive results without cheating. That's physics, and physics is a very hard and unforgiving ruler.