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Can you explain what you mean by bloat with the s7? I have that and like my phone, just wondering why others don't.
I remember having an S6 and it come with so many apps preinstalled that you can't uninstall. There's the default Google/android apps which is fine because those are the basics. Then Samsung puts a bunch of their own apps on there that basically duplicates a bunch of these and can't be uninstalled, and then there's other bloat apps like Facebook, maybe candy crush or some shit, maybe Netflix, that all can't be uninstalled. The worst offender is Facebook because it was on almost any other phone not running stock android but supposedly had deeper privileges as a "system" app
And this is the problem, and it's absurd that google haven't been stopped from doing this by any anti-competition regulators. Samsung don't want google apps on their phones, they have to have them. Samsung make their own, and they're often better than googles and are far more integrated into the OS.
They don't have to have them. Mine doesn't.
They have to from the factory.
No. They don't.
What Samsung phones come without google apps and google play services installed?
None of them.
So you’re just contradicting yourself then, and admitting it…….
...nope
You're conflating having them with "have to have" them.
No I’m not. They have to have them because google forces them on all phones that have google play services.
You seem confused. Do you even understand what’s being discussed here?
Samsung do not sell a single phone that doesn’t have all the google bloat apps on it. You can’t remove them. You disagreed, then agreed, then disagreed within 3 posts.
No they don't.
You're the one who is confused. I've been saying the same thing the whole time: that "Google bloat" is not required. I know because I don't have it and have removed it from several devices.
You keep reiterating that none of them don't have this Google software, as if it contradicts the previous statement, but it does not.
Once again, having this software doesn't mean that they have to have this software.
This is the last time I'll be repeating myself.
They literally do. It's part of the licensing for using Google Play Services.
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-oem-licensing-345806/
If that's what you've been saying then again, you're 100% demonstrably wrong. Removing it is not the same as it not being there in the first place. Rooting a device or using ADB to remove something doesn't mean it's "not removable" in the way that people talk about it.
You are 100% wrong and making a fool of yourself. If Samsung want to release a phone with Google Play Services, which is needed to run most android apps, they have to include 20+ Google apps and make them non-removable. If you think this is wrong, you are wrong.
I don't know what OP is talking about, by the time the S7 came around the bloat was already heavily reduced, I'm on an S10E still and think it's one of the best phones ever, apart from the lackluster battery maybe. But current day Samsung Android I don't consider bloated.
Maybe I had an S6, but I remember a bunch of apps I couldn't get rid of, Facebook being a big offender. I didn't save a list of what I disliked, but it was enough for me to go back to the iPhone for a bit.
This is all personal opinion though, I like my current phone, I like it enough to stick with them unless things change drastically. Maybe part of the issue is that I upgrade my phone every 3-5 years.
Also this might be a newer phone thing not a pixel thing, but it seems to be way more water resistant. I accidentally put my pixel 3 in the washing machine for a full cycle and it worked fine afterwards.