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A fall from greatness is inevitable and I'm afraid that the fall of America, with all of her hubris, is going to be spectacularly bloody and unpleasant for everyone. :(
When exactly was this greatness America is falling from? Was it back when things were built off the backs of slaves? Was it back when women were not allowed to vote or be professors? Was it back when interracial marriage was illegal? Was it back when gay marriage was illegal? When was it?
I get what you're saying, but the greatness I'm speaking of refers to geopolitical and economic greatness, and I hold no illusions that it is wholesome.
To literally answer your question, USA as a superpower came to be following the Second World War, more or less.
I get it. Under the harsh control of fathers who beat their wives(considered perfectly acceptable in society) while taking advantage of black and Chinese laborers and pursuing coverups to further the chemical industry at the expense of its citizen's health, we should all be ecstatic to fall from that tanted and corrupt "greatness".
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, honestly.
That there is no "greatness" from which America can fall because it hasn't been.
Are you going to sit there with a straight face and tell me that USA hasn't dominated economically and geopolitically for most of the 80 years since the end of WW2?
Depends on how you pick your yardsticks, right. Health outcomes. Lifespan, gun deaths in schools. Happiness metrics. Mental health metrics. Academic achievement.
But I guess we have geopolitical power going for us, so thats nice. I do like that we have some of the largest food portions in the world, especially of coffee. I can feel a bit smug about that.
I've seen 31 ounce "trenta" coffees at some starbucks, but you have to find a QuickTrip gas station and bring your own mug (up to 100 ounces) for 1.50 to really have a proper cup of coffee.
Go to france and its like 6 ounces. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
I literally defined the yardstick already and you cut it off right out of my quote. Don't do that.
Look, you've got an axe to grind with the USA and for good reasons, but you're twisting my words to hear something I'm not saying.
I know you defined your yardstick. My comment was to say that your choice of measure shouldnt be considered a comprehensive measure.
Of course it shouldn't. Who's suggesting that?