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Talking about you mr phil.

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[–] LemmyLaLibre@feddit.ch 208 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What was the moment you realized mr phil was a quack? For me it was when he had a man on the show who hit back after his wife assaulted him, and phil threatened to have the man arrested on stage if he got up and left while he was being humiliated and berated with things like: "there's no reason to ever hit a woman, not even if she has a knife" and "you're a coward" and "you're scum".

That man was a victim of long term domestic violence and snapped, but instead of helping him phil exploited him in his moment of weakness.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's some dumbass sexist bullshit which was/is wrong on so many levels. First, it degrades women by equating them all with "delicate flowers" who are supposedly incapable of doing any damage. Second, it implies that domestic violence is acceptable, or at least not as serious, if a woman is the abuser and that a man, supposing the victim is a man, should not be allowed to defend himself. For normal people, not to mention someone who sells himself as a sort of therapist, that's some fucked up logic.

As a general rule, nobody should be hitting anyone else. Gender is irrelevant. If someone is assaulting you, and you are unable to get away, then you should absolutely fight back until your attacker stops attacking you. Once again, gender is irrelevant. The fact that "Dr." Phil's tiny little brain can't comprehend that is simply mind boggling.

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a general rule, nobody should be hitting anyone else.

Yes

Gender is irrelevant.

Well yes and no. Gender is a social construct. You probably mean “(biological) sex,” which is very relevant.

[–] NekoRogue 23 points 1 year ago

For me, it was when he had a woman on his show who had gained a significant amount of weight, after being sexually assaulted multiple times, in order to appear more unattractive to men. Dr. Phil told her to lose weight, and to stop "letting men use your body as a playground."

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

While I agree with you he is scum of the earth, he does hold a doctorate, meaning he can call himself doctor.

Exposing people for what they are is most effective if there is nothing in your story that people can use as “See? You’re wrong about this one thing so you must be wrong about everything”.

He is scum and exploits people, and I wish he would just go away.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can be qualified and a quack. Look at Peterson.

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He actually hasn’t had a license for decades so he’s not qualified either lol

[–] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s right there on his Wikipedia but ok. Admittedly it’s 17 years give or take so yeah technically not decades plural.

[–] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either you're misinformed or just straight up lying.

For most of his career, Peterson maintained a clinical practice, seeing about 20 people a week. He has been active on social media, and in September 2016 he released a series of videos in which he criticized Bill C-16.[22][53][54] As a result of new projects, he decided to put the clinical practice on hold in 2017[55] and temporarily stopped teaching as of 2018.[19][17] In February 2018, Peterson entered into a promise with the College of Psychologists of Ontario after a professional misconduct complaint about his communication and the boundaries he sets with his patients. The college did not consider a full disciplinary hearing necessary and accepted Peterson entering into a three-month undertaking to work on prioritizing his practice and improving his patient communications. Peterson had no prior disciplinary punishments or restrictions on his clinical practice.[56][57] In 2023, the college ordered Peterson to undergo social media communication coaching, following concerns about his public comments.[58][59] Peterson denied any wrongdoing and filed for judicial review.[60][58]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am talking about Dr. Phil. I understand why that wasn’t clear but let’s maybe slow your roll a bit here.

Peterson is just a bad person lol

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Of course! I didn’t mean to say he’s not a quack, because he sure is.

[–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I mean, i have a doctorate, but like Phil, I can absolutely not practice psychology. (In my case it's because the doctorate is in Chemistry, not because I'm a quack and/or unethical scumbag)

[–] TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you give me a source for that? I want to believe you but as far as I could find he does have a doctorate, and was a practicing therapist until 2006.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Yuck, can you imagine having him as your therapist?

I’ve seen some bad therapists over the years, but nobody would hold a candle to this shitbag.

[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

And you know Frauter Phil has hit a woman or two in your day.

Someone that so far up their own ass and full of arrogance? Theres no way he hasnt hit a woman, and under far less justifiable causes than self defense during domestic abuse.