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There is no dilemma: life over money.
What if there is only one dose, but two people need it?
I'm that case, should the party with more money be entitled to it?
The story was about theft, so first come first serve I guess?
In that case the production of drug should be increased until demand is 100% satisfied.
Are you willing to give up any new electronics you own because they were made with slave labor?
That's a strawman and you know it.
Are you saying that electronics don't rely on slave labor?
https://www.emergingtechbrew.com/stories/2023/06/01/forced-labor-tech-supply-chains
And another strawman.
Cows must love your trail of failed arguments.
Ad hominem fallacy (or ad hominem) is an attempt to discredit someone’s argument by personally attacking them. Instead of discussing the argument itself, criticism is directed toward the opponent’s character, which is irrelevant to the discussion.
They insulted the idea not you.
And yet another strawman.
And you can check. This isn't an account I control.
Ok, cool. That proves what? That you still don't have an argument?
And again a strawman.
Seriously, I specifically criticize your argument. There's no mention of you as a person.
Shhh they just learned about fallacies and may be having a stroke. Now that's an ad hominem.
Is it still ad hominem if I'm insulting them because their arguments are bad?
The 2 situations are not comparable.
Hmm.... "life over money" seems like a reasonable justification for their decision and is an example of a "post-conventional" justification in Kohlberg's theory, but I think it's fair to try to point out the limitations of that justification as a general principle. I think that's what @Dagwood222@lemm.ee was going for, but they were a bit too pithy, so their retort comes across as a straw man fallacy (more like whataboutism maybe - definitely some type of tu quoque).
no, but i'm too comfortable with them, and i should be giving them up and seeking ethically made stuff instead. i recognize that i'm doing something immoral
My take is that it's pretty much impossible to live a completely moral life in an immoral world.
Even if you go 100% off the grid you aren't actively fighting.
We have to pick our battles.
I just try to keep using my old stuff for as long as I can, and replace it with stuff I brought used.
Do you have a reputable source showing that Samsung phones, for example, are made with slave labour?
If they are then that would obviously be very bad, although I'm not sure it's as bad as somebody dying (like in OP's dilemma).
https://www.fastcompany.com/3061292/20-tech-companies-ranked-on-how-much-slave-labor-they-use
I see, Samsung is mentioned in that article. Like I said, I think that is obviously bad, but it's probably not as bad as somebody dying.