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[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

This is just homophobia, by the way

Tell us you are not a gay man without telling us you are not a gay man.

Edit: Probably 85% of my social circle is some delicious flavor of queer. Kinda comes with being queer I guess. We make these jokes in part to normalize this sexuality and to make fun of hypocrites and bullies. It's the same thing as when the kid in school says "that's so gay" and you reply "oh really? You wanna get together later?". This has come up a few times - the sensitivity of some groups to these kinds of jokes - and the conclusion is basically that people who object to them are generally either not queer or insecure about being queer and want to exert control over the conversation either to get cred with the community or to assuage their fears.

When some narc on the internet would say "no homo", I liked to hit them back with a "yass homo". Or "homo where?"

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

and the conclusion is basically that people who object to them are generally either not queer or insecure about being queer and want to exert control over the conversation either to get cred with the community or to assuage their fears.

You have some pretty intense coping mechanisms. What's wild is I'd wager it's much more effort to make up these stories than to actually understand the point being made, yet here you are.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You have some pretty intense coping mechanisms.

Talk to any queer person who lived through the 80s and 90s and you will find that desire to own the language of being queer was kind of a priority. I've been beaten, escaped rape, disowned by my family. So yeah figuring out how to cope was something we did.

You on the other hand?

What’s wild is I’d wager it’s much more effort to make up these stories than to actually understand the point being made, yet here you are.

Go FYS. No seriously. I paid for this with blood. You can fuck ALL they way off. You make NO effort yourself to understand why I say the things I say and why it's so incredibly offensive to me to have someone try to police my language.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At some point, some people lose the ability (or never had it) to understand or care about the perspectives of others. Instead you get this knee jerk "anyone who is offended by what I say is the thought police and didn't live my life, blah blah blah". They never stop to realize that they didn't live the other person's life and they might have different, equally valid reasons for finding something offensive.

But no, it's you being persecuted as you're more entitled to say whatever you'd like and anyone who is offended should just shut the fuck up and deal with it. This sounds familiar... It's what your lot's MAGAs blather on about! Great job, you're no smarter than a red hat. LOL

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I'll just leave this here:

They never stop to realize that they didn’t live the other person’s life and they might have different, equally valid reasons for finding something offensive.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit this is peak white cishet liberal lol

While you just have to assume I'm any or all of those, your commentary means I don't have to assume you're an idiot.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just because you are gay does not mean you are not homophobic.

They likely meant that it's a joke about power dynamics implying sexual preference. That is homophobic, but funny, but also homophobic.

In short, just cause you like it up your arse doesn't mean you are a spineless idiot with no power. Instead Let people enjoy things and try to stop the spread of these stereotypes even in jokes. You never know who hears them and what social climate you might propagate into the heads of others and youth. If you are aware of these caveats you are allowed to make the most offensive jokes.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago