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SO wow. I've just been AI-ed. (s3.masto.ai)

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SO wow. I've just been *AI-ed*.

I googled 'shadow institutional framework' as shorthand to find the link to a journal article I wrote. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02671520701809783

This is what I got on Google chrome (left).

This is my paper (right).

#AI #Research #Knowledge #AcademicChatter @academicchatter

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[–] AlRoeh@social.tchncs.de 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

@Elias

@octade @prachisrivas @academicchatter

There is a very interesting take on this by @pluralistic in his novel "the bezzle", which illustrates the absurdity of this concept of laws. It seems nearly impossible for laypeople in the US to grasp an understanding of the laws applicable to a certain situation (and it can become quite costly to collect that intel).

PS: In Germany it is still difficult to really understand the language of laws (and lawyers), but one can look it all up.

[–] Elias@mementomori.social 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

@AlRoeh @octade @prachisrivas @academicchatter @pluralistic

Thank you for the reading tip!

Of course legal language is complex and has traditions that make it differ from common language. But - as you noted - it is possible to understand that with some training, experience or help.

Even I can understand German law or court decisions with my rusty German and a dictionary or a proper automatic translator (such as DeepL which AFAIK is a German company). On the other hand, after learning 20 years I am still not able to get a grasp of relevant law cases in a certain legal problem. It is truly, as Monty Python would put it, something totally different. ;-)

[–] octade@soc.octade.net 1 points 5 days ago

@AlRoeh@social.tchncs.de @prachisrivas@masto.ai @academicchatter@a.gup.pe @pluralistic@mamot.fr

You said the magic phrase.

Come see the violence inherent in the system!
https://youtu.be/ZoQptriioxA

This version is longer. The first minute shows the purpose of legal language: to claim possession of people and their property through identification with titles of authority:

Monty Python And The Holy Grail Dennis The Repressed Peasant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKIyVnoZDdQ

"I am Arthur, King of the Britons."

"King of the who?"

"King of the Britons."

"Who are the Britons?"

"We all are. We're all Britons. And I am your king."

Cleese and crew understood it instinctively.