Posts advocating class solidarity, or like this one, meta making fun of the drama? Absolutely yes! Capitalism = evil, I know! (caveats: on the large scale, when unregulated, etc.)

Posts mentioning how sharp guillotines can get? Nope. Especially when it explicitly goes against community or instance rules. This will not end well imho. Innocent people are going to get caught up, and overall society, having refused to learn from history (AGAIN) will need to relearn some lessons. Especially with today's level of surveillance... yikes! 😳

It's like someone spent zero minutes reading the dictionary definition of "anarchy" and decided to implement it online nonetheless. Fuck the "facts" about how that actually advocates for the return to a more tribal form of... hey, what it REALLY means is that anyone can do whatever they want, at any time! (unstated premise: but nobody else should have that freedom, only the "right" people)

I just unsubscribed from the Lemmy shitpost and microblog memes communities, and now my Subscribed feed is kinda boring AF except the stuff I've already seen today.:-( Fortunately there are tons of others - Star Trek, LOTR, Star Wars, we've got good content here.:-)

This mostly dashes any hopes I had about being able to recommend Lemmy to people irl one day.

It would be different if someone were to spin up their own instance - like lemmyusa.com just did, awesome! - or to create their own community, then they truly can do as they please. But why use someone else's hardware, go to someone else's home, and absolutely INSIST on doing whatever da fuq you want, not merely ignoring but flagrantly flaunting the rules? Bc of the "rightness" of the cause?

Okay then, so the philosophy used by the Alt-Right it is, apparently. I'm now calling it the Alt-Left. That term used to be made up and falsely applied - but no longer. 😢

[–] FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

People bitch and moan about things--irrespective of forum--because they have both things to bitch and moan about, and the time and energy to spend bitching and moaning. That suggests that things are pretty fucked for them. Sure, there are some people who lie, and their bitching and moaning is for show, but chances are that something is fucked in their lives that they want to do that.

To assume that a forum can be created to channel their bitching and moaning about fucked things away from the public eye implies several things: it is okay for things to be fucked for some people, and those people need to keep their bitching and moaning in line with rules and shit, or else to themselves. Instead of "I don't like this, so I'll either not read it, or I'll downvote it." That would be far more reasonable

That implication, that people need to keep their bitching and moaning to a certain format, style guide, and location, is pretty fucked up, because it takes the status quo of the current state and insists that it is correct. (Which, it, very clearly, is not.)

Neither you nor anyone on lemmy get to have a private instance that is still a social network open to the wide world to register on, read, and post on. You pick one or the other. Pretending that you can have both is, of course, what makes you (and the admins and mods sweating so hard) a bootlicker to the people and forces insisting that the status quo is fine, and people need to be 'more civil' about how they bitch and moan (read: they need to accept that their fucked state is just fine, so they can be fucked over more).

The french revolution was not a good time for anyone. Did it make things better? I dunno, I wasn't there. But it happened because things were really fucked for a lot of people. Who are you, to look at history, and say "yeah, they did the French Revolution, but in the end I think it made things worse for people, so they should have just stuck around with the boot on their neck instead?" They didn't know how things work out, they just knew that their current state was untenable, and needed to be changed. Anarchy and violence suck, for everyone, to be sure, but they suck more for the people who benefit most from there not being anarchy or violence. That's just tautological.

All the other social network alternatives are owned, operated, and moderated by the problem, so obviously any Lemmy instance owners, admins, and mods cowtowing on Lemmy with respect to how the problem wants things handled is... Bootlicking. Yeah. That's bootlicking.

If it doesn't literally break the local laws (which were written by and for the problem in many jurisdictions, so that's another source of fuckery to birch and moan about), then the mods need to calm their shit and moderate... less. Community and instance rules past that are all nice to haves, not must haves, because, and this is important, they were written by some rando preparing to be a real NIMBYist. If the community wants to laud a guy who did murder as the people's hero, and laud his methods as the methods of the people, and you don't like that the community is doing that on your hardware, fucking turn that shit off. The mere existence of large instances that draw the majority of discourse does not mean that the community needs to fucking adhere to the guidelines imposed by the instance admins. The instance is there for the community, not the other way around. It means the instance admins are in the position to be fucking public fucking servants. If they don't want to shell out the money and expertise to be public servants (which, by the way, means serving the public how the public wants to be served), they need to fuck right off. None of this "start your own instance and run it how you want" bullshit while the old instance still exists makes any fucking sense.

When the people in power act in a way that the people see as not in the people's interest, that's when the people are fucking pissed off. If that shit applies to governments and health insurance companies (which it clearly fucking does), why do you think it shouldn't apply to, oh, I don't know, Lemmy instances and their stewards?

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social -3 points 5 days ago

It's not about channeling - it's about being respectful. And no I don't mean to the wealthy, I mean to one another here.

Lemmy.ml for instance says that it is "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers", so surely it must be all about software enthusiasts r-r-right? Nope, instead go there now and see things like:

Meh, they can do whatever they choose. And I choose not to advertise for them anymore by telling people irl that I use "Lemmy". I've also figured out how to block all the users of the instance as well.

BTW I'm worse than a bootlicker - I'm a "collaborator".

Also, I guess my own complaining isn't as worthwhile as others complaining, so that rather than simply scroll on it warrants "a talking to", in order to uphold the status quo of Lemmy that pushes ever more to the extremist state. Translation: ONE side is, shall we say, "mOrE eQuAl" in its right to complain than the other.

You next explained the "rightness of cause" and "ideological purity", yup. Particularly interesting is how the admins don't have the "right" to do with their own instance what they choose and must instead kowtow to "the community" - which somehow excludes the entirety of all of its non-extremist members, yet for whatever reason includes solely the extremist ones? Interesting... I feel like I have heard this identical Alt-~~Right~~ Left message before somehow, just phrased in different terms.

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