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This isn’t quite accurate. The criticism is that if new AI abilities run ahead of the ability to make the AI behave sensibly, we will reach an inflection point where the AI will be in charge of the humans, not vice versa, before we make sure that it won’t do horrifying things.
AI chat bots that do bizarre and pointless things, but are clearly capable of some kind of sophistication, are exactly the warning sign that as it gains new capabilities this is a danger we need to be aware of. Of course, that’s a separate question from the question of whether funding any particular organization will lead to any increase in safety, or whether asking a chatbot about some imaginary scenario has anything to do with any of this.
what if the AI sprouts wings and flies into the sky where we can't reach it?
maybe that’s how the moon got mad - annoying goddamn chatbots flying in its view the whole time
With your choice of words you are anthropomorphizing LLMs. No valid reasoning can occur when starting from a false point of origin.
Or to put it differently: to me this is similarly ridiculous as if you were arguing that bubble sort may somehow "gain new abilites" and do "horrifying things".
I had assumed the golden age of people coming here to critihype LLMs was over because most people outside of Silicon Valley (including a lot of nontechnical people) have realized the technology’s garbage but nope! we’ve got a rush of posters trying the same shit that didn’t work a year ago, as if we’ve never seen critihype before. maybe bitcoin hitting $100,000 makes them think their new grift is gonna make it? maybe their favorite fuckheads entering office is making all their e/acc dreams come true? who can say.
in crypto, these guys run on a six to eighteen month cycle - at get in, evangelise, get rekt and disappear in embarrassment. What this means is that the only people who actually remember the history of crypto are the critics.
i once had a coiner demand in outrage that i prooove my claim that bitcoin was started by libertarians.
anyway. dunno if the same will hold in AI grift, but yeah recycling refuted claims as if nothing happened is standard in other areas of pseudoscience.
... did they know what a libertarian is?
who the fuck else would start it?
a libertarian, a pedophile and an early crypto enthusiast walk into a bar
"Drinking alone tonight?" the bartender asks.
"no," he says, "miku-tan will have a banana juice."
What new AI abilities, LLMs aren't pokemon.
Ah yes, if there’s one lesson to be gained from the last few years, it is that AI technology never changes, and people never connect it to anything in the real world. If only I’d used a Pokémon metaphor, I would have realized that earlier.
I mean, you could have answered by naming one fabled new ability LLM's suddenly 'gained' instead of being a smarmy tadpole, but you didn't.
I wasn’t limiting it to LLMs specifically. I don’t think it is up for debate that as years go by, new “AI” stuff periodically starts existing that didn’t exist before. That’s still true even though people tend to overhype the capabilities of LLMs specifically and conflate LLMs with “AI” just because they are good at appearing more capabale than they are.
If you wanted to limit to to LLM and get some specifics about capabilities that start to emerge as the model size grows and how, here’s a good intro: https://arxiv.org/abs/2206.04615
lol, there has literally never been a gain of function claim that checked out
you're posting like an evangelist, this way to the egress
hahahaha nope
Here’s a video of an expert in the field saying it more coherently and at more length than I did:
https://youtu.be/zkbPdEHEyEI
You’re free to decide that you are right and we are wrong, but I feel like that’s more likely to be from the Dunning-Kruger effect than from your having achieved a deeper understanding of the issues than he has.
For anyone who rightfully can't be arsed to click that link, the expert is "Robert Miles AI Safety", who I assume is an expert (a youtuber) in the madeup field of "AI safety".
Not to be confused with the late and great dream trance producer Robert Miles whom we all love dearly.
who the fuck is “we”? you’re some asshole who bought the critihype so hard you think that when the chatbot does dumb computer shit that only proves it’s more human and more dangerous. you’re not in on this grift, you’re a mark.
With all due respect, a counterpoint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvFZjo5PgG0
convincing