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I don't claim to know anything about the story here, but I don't need to in order to know the NYPD aren't the good guys.
Lol the fuck?
https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/factsheet-the-nypd-muslim-surveillance-and-mapping-program/
Whoever or whatever is behind this drone thing (if there is any substance to it at all) scares me far less than the NYPD. I would rather deal with literal actual extraterrestial aliens from another planet than the NYPD, fuck the NYPD.
The NYPD is an organization of violence not an institution of public safety and it has grown out of control like a cancer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Police_Department_corruption_and_misconduct
The NYPD does not exist to keep people safe from anything, they are only interested in these "drone sightings" insofar as it could be used to justify even more draconian policing policies and illegal surveillance and violation of people's rights to privacy.
I'd rather deal with the NYPD than idk maybe an aggressive foreign actor especially one that wants me ethically cleansed.
ACAB sure but lol
A good chunk of the NYPD would love to ethnically cleanse NYC if they could and I really wish that was cynical hyperbole but it really isn't the NYPD just knows they couldn't quite get away with it yet.
I don't know who you are more afraid of that is more prone to systematic violence against and subjugation of innocent people?
I think that's a stretch. It's easy to call people fascists and Nazis and cops absolutely are a huge part of that but to claim individuals are carrying ideals of ethnic cleansing is a huge leap. Meanwhile there are genuinely people in the world, a lot of them, who would do far more harm than the NYPD.
If this is a lone actor or a group terrorist group plotting, an enemy state, even if it is covert mission my own government or a friendly government is doing I might still trust the NYPD over them. I've literally gone to NYC and spoken to individual officers on multiple occasions. ACAB absolutely but your logic isn't sound bro
Rikers just entered the chat
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna182076
Yeah I know these are prison guards but it is all part of the same elegantly designed machine of violence, just a different part of the loop.
Sure we can disguise the cleansing in hate for the homeless and poor and call it a coincidence that the system specifically targets minorities in a dizzying variety of ways but shrugs
Besides, you ever talk to a cop when they think you are part of the same club as them? Don't underestimate violence and the passionate belief driving that violence just because it has been systematically normalized.
Again ACAB but Rikers isn't owned by the NYPD and although both operate under the governing bodies of New York it doesn't really gain that much ground in this discussion because the point is the NYPD will not do what Russia would do. Again, if this is a foreign adversary I do in fact trust the NYPD over them. I trust a rabid guard dog over a polar bear that is mad at me, especially if the polar bear is probably also mad at the guard dog too. The enemy of my enemy and all that.
"Again, if this is a foreign adversary"
What makes you so sure people from other places are that much more likely to want to hurt you than people from this very country?
I don't think you are actually paying attention if you think that, what is far more likely is rightwing violence will hurt you here and the "foreign adversaries" who are rich and conservative who you are so afraid of will look on and say "hmm I like that, we are going to have to try that in this country!" and they will call up the very people you seem to think will protect you from those people and talk shop about how to best subjugate, oppress and erase you, me and every other unwanted person.
Your understanding of the world has things totally locked into a nationalistic framing which is useless in this moment for understanding how violence is actually likely to reach out and touch you.
Uh huh..
Because I literally met and interacted with the people you're saying are trying to erase me lol. And originally your first comment is just a stray shot out of your ass.
Roll my God damn mother flipping eyes bro
no more than this story about mysterious scary drones flying around is a stray shot out of the ass of some conspiracy theorist hacks