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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The US has used Ukraine as a proxy against thr RF since at least Euromaidan. Their policy with Ukraine was and is to apply maximum pressure to Russia to isolate them from the rest of Europe. The US funding and arming the war to the last Ukrainian is therefore a continuation of decades-long policy and not a "decision to help".

This also applies to Israel. Israel is a lapdog of US empire that lashes out at targets in the middle eaat in ways that serve US ruling class interests. The US' support of Israel did not begin on October 7, it has been ongoing for decades. The US just provided even more money than usual and has withstood siding with genocide because it has a complacent, propagandized, and complicit population.

Hamas is certainly on the right side, which is to say, the liberation of Palestine from its racist settler colonists.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

The US has used Ukraine as a proxy against thr RF since at least Euromaidan.

Since 1991, but got more active in 2004 and blatantly obvious in 2014.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I’d say one major difference is that most US citizens are just ignorant of what’s going on and don’t contort themselves to support whatever war crime Netanyahu is committing now or play “what about X country.” Yeah a few old gheezers remember when Israel was fighting for survival, which is apparently who Biden caters to, but they are living in a different decade.

If the US, my country, invaded Mexico for being “A proxy against the US” and isolating us or whatever, I would sure as hell want China and Russia to send the narcos nukes for us being such morons, and would take every opportunity to give my government the middle finger, not justify invading a country with a microscopic fraction of our military power. I would hope we fail, miserably, so maybe the lesson sticks this time and the president gets kicked out, no matter what the Mexicans actually did.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

The US invaded Cuba to try and stop its revolution following brinksmanship with the USSR on nukes. If the US today understood Mexico to be a military proxy it would be talking about nuking CDMX. The country is run by incredibly cold and violent people. It would run 24/7 propaganda about the necessity of invading Mexico for our defense and to make preemptive strikes. It would create false flags to justify whatever action they wanted to take. These all have precedent for going and destroying countries thousands of miles away.

Re: what you think you would do, the US has been doing a genocide for over a year. What have you done to ensure it does not happen again? Did you vote for Harria of the Biden-Harris administration carrying it out? If so, that is the exact opposite if what you said you would do.

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