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Toronto considers maximum temperature for apartments (www.nationalobserver.com)

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City law mandates a minimum temperature of 21 C in winter but lacks a similar rule for cooling in summer. While air-conditioned apartments must stay below 26 C, this standard doesn’t apply to units without air conditioning.

The proposed bylaw, which will go before city council on Dec. 17, would require landlords to maintain indoor temperatures in rental units below 27 C. If approved, the regulation will take effect on April 30, 2025, in time for summer.

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[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

21C is the minimum?! I like my house around 17C at night in the winter. how else do you get all cozy in bed?

[–] TheBloodFarts@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

Living in a condo during winter in Toronto was pure hell. We'd have to leave windows and doors open all night to stay cool otherwise the temperature would easily reach 24C, it was insane

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yea, that's pretty wild. I own my home and keep it at 67F (19.5C). I guess it's different if you have no control over your home temp.

Though I think a max temp of 27C is reasonable, they live in a cool climate, not every home even has AC.

[–] TheBloodFarts@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Toronto/surrounding region is definitely not a cool climate. AC is 100% necessary starting in May/June through to October nowadays

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Right now i have to leave my balcony door open in my apartment over here in scarborough.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I lived the vast majority of my life in a warmer climate without AC, it's definitely not required unless you have a disability.

[–] TheBloodFarts@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I feel like you haven't experienced 30C+ with 90%+ humidity because it caused a condo full of ~1000 able bodied people to collectively lose their minds against the condo board when the building AC failed mid summer.

My experience was also not unique:

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/inhumane-residents-of-toronto-condo-report-stifling-temperatures-after-weeks-without-air-conditioning-1.6941943

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/urban-heat-study-looks-at-temperatures-inside-toronto-apartments-without-ac-1.6965281

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/is-your-toronto-apartment-too-hot-heres-what-your-landlord-is-legally-required-to-do/article_490dd2a8-2da1-11ef-b66b-e77ebc3cbc99.html

https://nowtoronto.com/news/the-rooms-are-on-fire-toronto-residents-are-calling-on-the-city-to-implement-a-max-temperature-bylaw-ahead-of-next-heat-wave/

But I guess you're right, why should I be considering my silly sensory experience when your superior experience is obviously the universal truth. So silly of me

[–] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

My building's AC failed when it was supposed to be started up in May about a decade ago. The condo ended up buying a portable AC unit for each apartment -- some people were pissed because they had to pay the electricity to operate it. We asked them if they'd like us to take the unit back, and 100% of them said no. :)

It was an awful summer, but the A/C was replaced with a new modern unit, and not only was it better, but it used about half the power of the 30 year old unit.