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Does anyone else feel as if it's over when it comes to really owning your own things?

As of now:

  • You don't have the option of having a phone with decent specs and replaceable parts
  • You have to have really good knowledge in tech to have private services that are on par with what the big companies offer
  • You have to put up with annoying compatibility issues if you install a custom ROM on your android phone
  • You cannot escape apps preventing you from using them if you root your device
  • Cars are becoming SaaS bullcrap
  • Everything is going for a subscription model in general

And now Google is attempting to implement DRM on websites. If that goes through, Firefox is going to be relegated to privacy conscious websites (there aren't many of those). At this point, why even bother? Why do I go to great lengths at protecting my privacy if it means that I can't use most services I want?

It sucks because the obvious solution is for people to move away from these bullshit companies and show that they actually care about their privacy. Even more important is to actually PAY for services they like instead of relying on free stuff. I'm not optimistic not just because the non privacy conscious side is lazy, but because my side is greedy. I mean one of the most popular communities on lemmy is "piracy" which makes it all the more reasonable for companies not to listen to privacy conscious people.

I wouldn't say that this is the endgame but in this trajectory, privacy is gone before 2030.

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[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

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[–] spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago
  • I know about Fairphone but the specs are a bit limited IMO.
  • I do have a Pixel with the stock (I know bad idea) ROM but I rooted it. I do have the kdrag0n Safetynet fix, but there is one app that somehow finds out about it. I guess one app out of however many I have is not too bad now that I think about it.
  • I haven't really looked too far into this, but I assume that they build some tamper detection in the seat warmers (unless they're incompetent or lazy). But the good news is that the seat warming subscription is no longer there.
  • For this one I was just looking for things to complain about. I have no subscriptions for media and just buy the physical stuff (or digital from Bandcamp).

I guess it's not a guarantee that DRM would be that proliferated and I can avoid it. I was being way to pessimistic at the time.

Thanks for uplifting words mate!

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let me just spare a few dollars for privacy after paying for rent & groceries in my third world country currency.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the alternative? Lemmy is run by the community and pretty much a labour of love, but everything fro phones to search engines is made by companies, not charities.

You can rely on open source, volunteer products if you want affordable privacy. That'll deprive you of luxuries and it'll require you to put in more work yourself, but it's not the end of the world.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The alternative is putting pressure on companies to not succumb to greed and to go as far as enacting regulation to protect consumer interests. Paying some other companies to mitigate the harms of these companies while pretending that it's a sensible solution to everyone is not my idea of solving a problem. You're just sequestering privacy behind a paywall and pretending it's all fine. It's not; it's elitist and plays into the pay-for-privilege that toxic capitalism breeds. Because let's keep in mind that privacy--unlike the continuous stream of manufactured goods--is a choice that only needs to be made once.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fairphone exists

As someone who has a Fairphone 3: they destroyed any trust I had in them the moment the FP4 came without headphone jack and with a different form factor. I thought that their idea would be that each module could be upgraded independently. That's what would make their offering truly innovative and eco-friendly. By departing from that, they simply became a manufacturer of overpriced phones with slightly better ethics.

ROM quality depends on your make and model,

I am using /e/OS since when I got the FP (what, 3 years ago?) and to this day the applications that need GPS are completely unreliable. I gave up on using bikesharing systems here because their apps simply fail all the time to get my location.

but they give you a ton of hardware for free

It's not free. There is no marginal cost in what they are doing. This is all a cash grab and an attempt to further segment the market.

Everyone wants music, nobody wants to buy CDs, nobody wants to buy MP3s, and all that’s left is subscriptions.

If the lion share of music revenue went to artists, you can bet that more people would pay for it. But we know for years that this is not the case. Same for movies.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know anything about Fair phone's modules and uogradeability, all I know is that you can buy replacement parts which is better than most other brands.

I know /e/ is far from perfect (they've lagged behind for years) but I don't believe that's the OS FF themselves support either. I just know it comes closest in terms of integration compared to stock Android. How well it works differs strongly per device, some work perfectly out of the box while others have nonfunctional hardware.

The cost of most car features is either upfront anyway (software stuff) or very minor (seat warmers). Sure, they sell you seat warmers for a couple grand or a major monthly fee, but resistive heaters really don't cost all that much. There's maybe $50 of hardware in a car that they will charge you ten times as much for if you buy the feature. I'm pretty sure they're actually saving money by simplifying their supply lines and factory processes to just make a single type of chair.

I don't think most people care all that much about artists. Most people I know just go to Youtube or Spotify because it's free and easy. However, if you think artists get little money for CDs, you'll be shocked to see the streaming situation. Streaming pays out MUCH less compared to physical media. If you want to support artists, go to their concerts, that's where they rack in their cash.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 1 year ago

I’m pretty sure they’re actually saving money by simplifying their supply lines and factory processes to just make a single type of chair.

My point is that if these types of features are so cheap to add, then why not just make it part of the standard package?If it costs $50 to make, add $100 to the price of the car and make a standard feature. This extreme segmentation just to squeeze more money is counterproductive.

if you think artists get little money for CDs, you’ll be shocked to see the streaming situation. Streaming pays out MUCH less compared to physical media. If you want to support artists, go to their concerts, that’s where they rack in their cash.

Yeah, I know. This is not a defense of streaming services.