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[–] puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

issue is you can't really play league without playing with the type of people to play league. that's enough for me to say no thank you, no matter the game mode or whatnot

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I mean, you are definitionally correct. League players are the type of people to play League.

There are great ways to enjoy League without having to interact with League players. For one, there is the PVE digital card game Legends of Runeterra, which has a really satisfying RPG roguelike mode with long term progression. I have likely put over a hundred hours into this and spent zero dollars.

There’s also a new single player feature for Wild Rift which lets you fight AI opponents trained on player matches. You can edit the ranked skill level of the AI and pick/make them play any champion. There are dozens of hours of good times here alone. Again, completely funded by cosmetic purchases of other players and free to enjoy.

Personally, I think turning off chat and teaming up with players you got along with is more than enough to compensate for the “type of people” issue. Playing with pure randoms in any online game is not great for sanity. But lots of folks are looking to make friends and are good co-op partners if you’re willing to DM them.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

The matchmaking dynamic has ruined a lot of games and LoL is no exception. I do think folks play up the bad vibes on LoL relative to everything from Overwatch to Valorant to fucking Roblox. If you're not going into these games with a group of local friends, you're either going to have a bad time or you're going to be the bad time other people experience.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Meh it's not 2003, folks aren't accepting of being called slurs for not winning a match, especially while ranked as a beginner.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

LoL has a peak daily player count north of 13M. Its one of the most played games in the world. There's clearly a tolerance for intolerence in the setting - even an adoption of it, as younger players internalize the slurs as appropriate behavior. That's why you see it everywhere. People with foul mouths aren't attracted to LoL. The existing base (which was trained to be shit when they joined) degrades the newest members in turn.

You see the same in games like Roblox and Call of Duty. Without any meaningful admin or internal censorship, the bad actors run rampant and the new players are trained to accept (and then imitate) the miserable attitudes.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Fairly put, but I was mostly addressing the "play up" line. It's common, and those you.see complaining about it leave. I may have addressed it poorly.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

There's definitely selection bias (LoL loses some number of players on its deplorable culture). But overall, they've been growing their userbase year over year. That's a big reason they don't seem to give a shit about their reputation. It doesn't seem to cost them much.

Lots of social media and big market gaming has this problem of 4chan-ification. Costs way more to police than you can earn from policing, unless there's state regulation (akin to the FCC) on what you're distributing.

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