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[–] EvilZ@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Let's face it for elites.... They are not American, they are Elites that use America as their playground ... The Biden tanked the Harris campaign out of spite and don't care who gets in as it doesn't really affect them.

These are extremely rich people..... Unless we are in Red China, they have nothing to fear

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No offense, but Harris more than capably tanked her own campaign by being as milquetoast as biden when it comes to supporting the working class.

[–] EvilZ@thelemmy.club -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

None taken, however my comment and yours can both be true which is my concern....

From various reports it would seem that President Biden is quite a nasty little thing that, with his wife, have a very overinflated view of themselves.... (what président doesn't I guess) however he has been vindictive for being ousted for the president debste(which was a no brainer...) and honestly I truly believe that he did on purpose to tank Harris.

She has herself to blame for sure however, even Bill Clinton through his speach about the middle eastern conflict stired up the wrong tone....

The democratic party is in need to a cleanup... Then again I would say the same of the republican as well as they are under the leadership of a loon... (thinking of Black Adder with King George III)

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah but had harris done the correct thing and disowned biden's policies (critically around israel and corporate water carrying) and been a decent human being and supported working americans. biden wouldn't have been able to impact shit.

[–] EvilZ@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yup, this is the comment to be remembered for the 2028.100%agreed

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Red China is long gone mon ami. Communism with Chinese Characteristics loves the rich, but only if you're aligned to the correct clique.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is a common statement by those who haven't read theory, especially among the Western Left, but this isn't true in any capacity. Billionaires are regularly executed in the PRC, the fact that the PRC has a private sector doesn't mean it has shifted away from Marxism-Leninism. The entire reason Marx predicted Socialism, ie Public Ownership and Central Planning, to overtake Capitalism is because markets naturally prepare the foundations for Socialism. Competition forces more and more companies to consolidate and grow, develop their own infrastructure for planning, which can be siezed and used by the public.

Question 17 : Will it be possible to abolish private property at one stroke?

Answer : No, no more than the existing productive forces can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society. Hence, the proletarian revolution, which in all probability is approaching, will be able gradually to transform existing society and abolish private property only when the necessary means of production have been created in sufficient quantity.

-Engels, The Principles of Communism

Half the economy of the PRC is in the Public Sector, and another almost tenth is in the cooperative sector. The Private Sector covers mostly light industry that depends on Publicly Owned industries like steel and public infrastructure. As Capital consolidates in the Markets, the CPC increases ownership. I recommend reading Socialism Developed China, Not Capitalism. Markets are more efficient at lower levels of development, and Public Ownership and Planning is more efficient at higher levels of development.

If you want to learn more about Marxism, I made an introductory Marxist reading list.

[–] EvilZ@thelemmy.club 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] EvilZ@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 weeks ago

I was saying fair point that China today is not that of the 70's ...

There is a corrupt rich class in China and the communist party is struggling to "harmonize"

Then again, I would not wish to Be the leader of a billion people.... It's not easy decision for sure....