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[โ€“] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My point being that other recorded experiences with native americans do not invalidate this rosy reminiscence.

I'd actually point to the excepts from Columbus's own journals, catalogued in Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" to identify a number of native tribes he initially encountered who were practically childlike in their innocence.

The Caribbean island peoples were documented in sharp contrast to more imperial mainlanders as extraordinarily passive, initially quite friendly, and devoid of the more rigid hierarchies and institutions common in those more technologically advanced societies.

The only bit that doesn't really fit is the horses, which hadn't arrived from Europe yet

[โ€“] Hamartia@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Interesting stuff. I think remember hearing about that in the Behindthebastards episode on Columbus.

The spanish had a similar native experience during an unplanned visit to Ireland in 1517. While there were towns and villages in Ireland at the time, there was still a significant population of wild Irish.

They spend an marked amount of time talking about the free range boobs that were on show.