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On “Safe” C++: An Odyssey of Sneers (izzys.casa)

submitted 2 days ago by self@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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this post has been making the rounds on Mastodon, for good reason. it’s nominally a post about the governance and community around C++, but (without spoiling too much) it’s written as a journey packed with cathartic sneers at a number of topics and people we’ve covered here before. as a quick preview, tell me this isn’t relatable:

This is not a feel good post, and to even call it a rant would be dismissive of the absolute unending fury I am currently living through as 8+ years of absolute fucking horseshit in the C++ space comes to fruition, and if I don’t write this all as one entire post, I’m going to physically fucking explode.

fucking masterful

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[–] khalid_salad@awful.systems 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Dan asked me “what’s the fastest Big O notation?” and hey, to my credit despite not having a college degree, I knew the answer from self studying! “Oh, I know this. O(1) Constant time”, I said over the phone. “No, see it’s O(0). The fastest program is the one that never runs. It’s clear you don’t have enough experience for this role. So let’s test you on your sysadmin capabilities. Maybe you can redeem yourself there”.

There is something about the simultaneous pedantry and total ignorance in this that is enraging. Everything is O(1) space because there are 10^81^ atoms in the universe, and everything is O(1) time because of the heat death of the universe, don'tcha know. Also did I just solve the halting problem?

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 6 points 23 hours ago

The definition of Big-O literally contains a clause that says the function is non-zero (for sufficiently large x) so please go fuck yourself

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 17 points 1 day ago

Computer scientists hate him: solve the halting problem by smashing all running computers with a sledgehammer.

[–] self@awful.systems 15 points 2 days ago

another absolutely fucked thing about the gotcha interview is, they never stop at just one. if you somehow read the interviewer’s mind and asspull the expected (not “correct”, mind you) answer, they’ll just go “huh” and instantly pivot to a different instant-fail gotcha. the point of the gotcha interview isn’t candidate selection; the point is that the asshole interviewer has power over the candidate, and can easily use gotchas to fabricate technical-sounding reasons for rejecting suitable candidates they personally just don’t like.

shit like this is one reason our industry is full of fucking assholes; they select for their own by any practical means. it’s reminiscent of those rigged, impossible “literacy tests” they used to give voters in the south (that is, the southern US), where almost every question was a gotcha designed so that a poll worker could exclude Black voters at effectively their own discretion, complete with a bullshit paper trail in case anyone questioned the process.

(also, how many of these assholes send candidates down a rabbit hole wasting time answering questions unrelated to the position when they don’t get the gotcha right? I swear that’s happened to me more than once, and I can only imagine it’s so nobody asks why most of the interviews are so short)