thank you for that and the "what is socialism" post; but i'm encountering that theory is somehow still a HEAVY read for someone like who me has been inside the leftist sphere of influence for his entire life; there's needs to be some sort of sound-bite-able way of sharing these messages and i wish that ml's had the capitalists' deep pockets that guarantees a deep bench of talent that could figure something like this out.

it reminds of my own own experience of going from technical support to software engineering by simply reading. your ignorance makes it daunting as first and you have to put in A LOT of effort to understand it when you don't even know the basics and you'll get there eventually if you stick with it; but most won't stick with it and if you're REALLY knowledgeable at it, it becomes difficult to understand why it's difficult for other people.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's certainly difficult, but when in doubt I love sharing this person's articles as more bite-sized bits of theory and soundbites from Michael Parenti speeches, haha.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

even more material to "read"; now i'm wondering if i'll ever be finished with any of it. lol

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

We’ll never be finished with bourgeois theory: it’s what we’ve been fed our entire lives, usually without even realizing it. It’s just common sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

i'm convinced that if i had fewer vulnerable identities that i would never have been able to see through practice all the "common sense" bullshit levied against me all my life and i also think that's the only reason why i try when others with identical backgrounds, like my family, don't bother; i've learned the hard way that ignorance will hurt me long before it will hurt them.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That does help. After all it was black Americans who invented wokeness, before white liberal Americans co-opted it and perverted its meaning. The marginalized have always experienced the fascism that’s been baked into the American project since the beginning.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

i suspect that facism is going to force me to move back into the country that my parents immigrated from if trump gets his way and in the same way that incidents like operation wetback deported millions of american citizens.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I don’t know your situation, and I don’t have a crystal ball, but I think Trump’s rhetoric is going to rub up against the will of the bourgeoisie which relies on exploiting immigrant labor. Republicans talk a big game about immigrants and then exploit the precarity & fear that it generates. Not to imply that the fear isn’t justified, because it’s not all talk.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

my crystal ball comes from being on so many shit lists because i'm the "uppity beaner who doesn't know when to shut up" and the "queer who doesn't know when to walk away from a confrontation" and the "weirdo who doesn't know how to read a room" and "the pocho who doesn't get it" and the ""normal" guy who won't stop attracting the neuro-diverse" and the "big and loud scary dark man coming at you on the street" and the "bleeding heart liberal" in a deeply conservative family and hometown.

you're right about the deportations being a little bit hyperbolic and that's not what what i was referring to; if i'm deported, it won't be because i'm immigrant labor, but because no one will help like it has happened to me in more incidents that i want to remember in my past because of those shit lists.

i share this because i had a similar conversation with my father and my sister independently about trump's plan to deport people like them and the rest of my siblings and they had a similar response about it being hyperbole. like i said in my previous comment: my crystal ball is telling me that it's going to hit me before it hits them and they're refusing to see it despite them being the target demographic in trump's designs. (i am too as my family's anchor baby and our storied history with immigration because of it). i still don't know when to shut up and felt like i had to give voice to an unknown perspective with people who i think can "get it" and be aware that it's a thing as well for people who aren't immigrant labor, but still has the same life altering impact nonetheless.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

do you not think, that potentially, they just go the indentured servitude route, after holding people for the "crime" of illegal immigration?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Good point, and quite grim. I’m still trying to wrap my head around the fact that California voters, by popular referendum, chose to uphold slavery this month.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago

yerp, I partially think that was necessary for this route (which probably would've happened agnostic to either party), since central california does a shit ton of agriculture.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Haha, if you want the most bang for your buck I stand wholeheartedly behind my introductory reading list. I truly put a lot of effort into it and several comrades helped tremendously.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

i'm starting there because i've learned that audio books are the best way to cheat at "reading" lol

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

Thanks! Feel free to ask questions 🫡