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[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I honestly think we should have a 20 question multiple choice basic 8th grade civics quiz before people are allowed to vote. We no longer have an electorate that's informed enough to be capable of voting. Score 60% or higher on that quiz or get the fuck out of the booth.

Edit: I'm incorrect, there's no national requirement that I can find. In CA we can't finish 8th grade without studying and passing a civics test covering this material: https://www.ixl.com/standards/california/social-studies/grade-8. So yeah, I amend my opinion - these standards should be followed nationwide.

[–] tmyakal@lemm.ee 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, yes. One of those good Jim Crow policies.

[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would have to be coupled with assurances that all children are fetting and equal civics education to avoid the whole segregated schools being crappy thing.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fair enough. IIRC there's a mandatory civics test to complete 8th grade nationwide which was, ostensibly, intended to prevent electoral problems like this

[–] simplymath@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is false.

At most, I see state level requirements like this

And, yeah, poll tests are classic Jim crow tactics.

Here's an example of what to expect from the red states, especially after the Supreme Court gutted the voting rights act.

Instead of blaming the voters that showed up to vote, please reflect on why 10 million people who voted for Biden simply didn't vote for Harris and think about how elitist thoughts like "being too stupid to vote" in a democracy are the root of the problem.

Instead of calling voters stupid, try to understand why they feel hopeless under the current regime so that the Dems can re-establish the working class solidarity and big tent coalition that gave Obama a confortable majority. There is not path to 270 that can neglect the very real and tangible concerns of those "idiots".

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, I'm wrong then. In CA we have to study and pass this in 8th grade: https://www.ixl.com/standards/california/social-studies/grade-8

That should be a national requirement.

[–] simplymath@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

nah, man. Being able to vote inalienable. You get the vote by existing, not by meeting some arbitrary standard set by the ruling party. Stop blaming the voters and start blaming the party that failed them

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It's possible that there's more than one problem that needs addressing. We're on the same page w.r.t. the Democratic party being an absolute policy failure for decades.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So completely disenfranchise the poor and working class whose education system has been purposefully destroyed by the ruling class, and only let the ruling class vote?

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Or maybe actually give them a civics education? I'm behind a free online basic civics class every 2y that gets you a $250 credit on your taxes or something. There has to be a reason to actually take it and pay attention.