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Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich endorsed President-elect Donald Trump’s victory, stating it’s “time” to extend full Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank.

This comes as Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu highlighted his alignment with Trump on the “Iranian threat.”

Tensions in Gaza and Lebanon have escalated following recent Israeli airstrikes, with regional leaders gathering in Riyadh to address Israeli actions.

Israeli President Isaac Herzog is set to meet President Biden, though Biden’s influence on Israel may be limited following Trump’s win.

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[–] Azal@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Whelp, either way, got what you wanted, dems lost. Hope your high minded ideals on sitting aside helps us not be on the bus to hell, because you're still living here and the consequences aren't going to walk past you and yours with "Oh, you didn't vote? A'ight, you get to sit this thing out."

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The people who didn't vote aren't dumb. They either don't believe they're in an impacted group, or don't believe the Democrats would be meaningfully better. It's really that simple.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I agree with everything you're saying except for this part. A lot of voters are very dumb (they mostly voted for Trump and he is planning tariffs that will tank the economy, including for them, for example). But, the Democrats also need to adapt to the voter base and the issues they care about. I think both things can be true lol.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That really depends on how we mean dumb. I just mean generally. But yes in the way that we're all dumb about things we don't educate ourselves on, voters are generally pretty dumb on politics. They vote mostly based on messaging and vibe. But they aren't dumb in the way that you could lie to them about how the economy is currently affecting their life. And Biden was either so detached from the common person he didn't understand the problem, or he tried to gaslight the public.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Fair. I think this graph of the personal savings rate the last 5 years explains everything. Both Biden and Harris were fighting an uphill battle against these numbers the whole time.

Notice how everyone's savings goes up during pandemic relief and then tanks as those benefits end and inflation continues to stay high?

[–] Azal@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

And that's where I'm in constant disagreement. If this was a minor situation, I'd be probably more chill about it all, but the whole not thinking they're going to be in an impacted group is a thing because the groups that will not be impacted in this is so small.

Have coworker who just realized his being on his dad's insurance is because of ACA. Have a coworker who was complaining about price of soybeans because his family was in that, that was Trumps last trade war with China and he's wanting to start a bigger one. The Republicans wanting to deregulate most industries will affect internet, food, unions, etc.

The things people complain about the democrats not standing up to the republicans have actively opposed. Been a final line in the sand for the massive sweeping social changes the conservatives have wanted to do since Nixon and Reagan.

My arguments have never been "love the democrats", it was "we just tossed the foxes into the henhouse."