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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (9 children)

I'm starting to think moderates really do have that goldfish memory...

America has been a lot worse off than it's about to be.

We had actual slavery, we genocided the native inhabitants, women were property, we even burned some as witches for telling us what we didn't want to hear.

Emmit Till was brutally murdered as a child because a white girl wanted some attention.

We interned the wives and children of Japanese American while their husbands and fathers were drafted into our military.

Is shit gonna be horrible?

Absolutely.

But it probably won't be worse than America has ever been. And to stop fighting now makes zero sense.

Learn a lesson from progressives, it's been almost 20 years since we've been happy about a presidential election. That's never made us stop voting, it's never stopped us from working on the next election, and it sure as shit hasn't stopped any of us from complaining.

But maybe next time you can remember that the politically disengaged won't be motivated to vote by a candidate who chases Republican votes.

For longer than I've been alive the most popular excuse for not voting has been:

Both parties are the same

So when Dems act like Republicans, it just normalizes them and makes more people feel ok voting R, and depresses D turnout.

Please don't forget, or check out for four years.

[–] echo@lemmings.world 32 points 6 days ago (5 children)

We had actual slavery

We have actual slavery. It's the industrial complex prison system and it's about to grow substantially.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Oh for sure, I think if the migrant camps actually get built in time, the plan is for them to be held indefinitely while planned incompetence makes it take forever to determine if they're citizens or not.

All the time they're being "paid" $0.07/hr for manual labor.

But four years honestly just isn't enough time to do all that stuff. In four years everyone will be mad at trump again and even a bland moderate can beat him again.

Hopefully we choose someone better, but I don't think the DNC will let us choose.

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I thought those camps were already built? Like back in the Bush era. They called them secure unused railway facilities IIRC, but if you look at them from a different perspective... They look like concentration camps at the end of rail lines, out in the middle of nowhere.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Most were actually built under Obama.

It's just nowhere near the capacity.

Like, wherever you went to Highschool had like football or soccer games, right? They had the infrastructure to handle that.

You could not schedule the Super Bowl or World Cup there.

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