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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/22335335

Ryan Grim column

article by Krystal Kyle & Friends
Nov 06, 2024

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[–] echo@lemmings.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

But... he didn't win. So, this article serves no purpose.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Hey pal, nihilism is a valid response but please find a healthier space for it.

[–] echo@lemmings.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's realism, not nihilism. Bernie never had a chance of winning because he was never, ever going to be put into a position where that was an option. Spending time on who is a better candidate makes no difference as long as 'the people' continue to vote against their own best interests. The oligarchy controls it all at this point.

Spending time on "Bernie would have won" is just mental masturbation...

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If that is not nihilism, then it is unhealthy discourse.

[–] echo@lemmings.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why is it unhealthy to be in touch with reality? If you like tilting at windmills, then be my guest. I prefer to be very sober about what is going on and what it's going to take to have actual change. Talking about whether Bernie could have won is as useful as talking about Star Trek vs. Star Wars. (Note: I think Bernie would have been an awesome president which is why I voted for him and campaigned for him.)

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems -1 points 2 weeks ago

When I say unhealthy I am not talking about you individually but the impact on the outcome of the discourse. This particular moment isn't about proving who was right, though there is plenty of other places where that is needed, it is about integrating what we know so we can coalesce.

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