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Summary

CNN analyst Van Jones attributed Vice President Kamala Harris’s loss to Donald Trump in the presidential election to the Democrats’ ineffective media strategy.

Jones argued that while Democrats focused on traditional campaigning, Republicans built a powerful alternative media ecosystem, leveraging podcasts, online shows, and platforms like X to reach key voter demographics, especially young men.

Trump bypassed mainstream outlets, appearing on popular programs such as Joe Rogan’s podcast, which helped him dominate swing states.

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm not buying it. He won because the electorate specifically wants a vandal to wreck shit instead of an establishment figure who also happens to be a woman. Clearly, there are additional factors, but that's mainly it.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Completely disagree. I know tons of conservatives that lovingly voted for trump, or voted for him "for the country." I've never even met a single rebel voter.

Small sample size, but still.

The election was a popularity contest, people live in their phone bubbles, and Democrats campaigned like its the 1950s. People voted for Trump thinking he's a hero, eyes wide open, because that's what their information environment is.

Hotter take, but the genie is out of the bottle, and Dems are going to keep losing until they start campaigning like influencer con artists. Fight fire with fire.

If they don't like it? Tough. They should have regulated social media when they had the chance instead of taking their money.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I remember hearing how great Kamala's TikTok presence was. It's hard to say, though, when these services all push you into a bubble. I saw barely any pro-trump messaging online. Partly because I'd rather not be online than watch that bullshit, but also because it all got filtered to the "other side of TikTok."

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I saw barely any pro-trump messaging online. Partly because I’d rather not be online than watch that bullshit, but also because it all got filtered to the “other side of TikTok.”

Bingo.

Even Lemmy is (generally) a massive US left bubble, without any criticism its users honestly need to hear. And I fear the whole idea of the fediverse is going to reinforce that going forward.

Ok but anyone who's ever heard Trump say anything at all and still thinks he's a good choice is mentally disabled.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

"It's the economy, stupid".

[–] cdf12345@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

It can be both.

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

I think Van Jones has a point here, but you're not wrong either. It's a big mess and we're still pulling apart the knots, but for sure the Media ecosystem is part of our reality.