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When a bug tracker is inside the exclusive walled-gardens of MS Github or Gitlab.com, and you cannot or will not enter, where do you file your bug report? Here, of course. This is a refuge where you can report bugs that are otherwise unreportable due to technical or ethical constraints.

⚠of course there are no guarantees it will be seen by anyone relevant. Hopefully some kind souls will volunteer to proxy the reports.

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An original poster asks a question or attempts to create a thread to compile information about a topic, and there is always some clown or asshole who cannot resist posting a snide remark. If the snide remark is clever or captures the sentiment of many, it gets a flood of up votes and rises to the top, bringing with it a tree of replies to the snide remark. Useful constructive answers get buried because they are boring to the wider audience who just likes to see a good roasting. I think there are more kids in the threadiverse than we expect.

So content that’s nearly garbage dominates the thread and drowns out the thread’s purpose, disservicing the OP and all those who want the same answer or collaboration. It’s a design failure of Lemmy to be blind to this very basic characteristic of human nature.

Censorship is unreasonable in this situation. But so is the status quo. Nothing wrong with a bunch of clowns having fun, but that fun should happen non-disruptively on the sidelines and out of the way. The OP has a mission and purpose. The OP should be able to click a red fish that flags a post as a red herring. From there, that tree should be pushed out of the way somehow.. to a sidebar or folded, or a subthread of sorts.. call it the clown room. Critics who just want to bitch or push contempt should still have a voice. Make it so they have to click a “criticism” button to then step into a space with unwanted criticism.

There is wanted criticism and unwanted criticism. An OP might say “Roast me..” or “what’s wrong with this approach?” If the OP intends for the discussion to be controversial, then the OP obviously has no interest in the flagging anything. But if the OP has a mission to accomplish, they should have a control.

Another way to look at this is the fedi could use a stackexchange replacement. Stackexchange never has garbage getting high ranks. I’ve never had an acct there so I don’t know how they manage it, but it seems Lemmy could learn from that.

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[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This may be better posted to !lemmy@lemmy.ml as that is the main lemmy centric community on the server run by the lemmy devs, where this community is for bugs on this specific instance.

ETA: that said, I do not disagree with you. I run !left_handed@sopuli.xyz and every thread has someone commenting about left leaning politics, or jerking off left handed.

[–] activistPnk 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I avoid all centralized Cloudflare nodes. The lemmy.ml is no longer centralized by CF, but some would say it’s still centralized by disproportionate size inequality. It’s kind of a borderline case but I try to favor the instances that are nowhere near being part of the centralization/network effect problem.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am unsure you are understanding what I said.

[–] activistPnk 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I believe you were suggesting to post lemmy bugs in !lemmy@lemmy.ml, which is in an instance I generally avoid. It’s a fair enough suggestion but !bugs@sopuli.xyz is catch-all place where people can report bugs if they object to the official channels. I don’t expect bugs I post here to be seen by the right people but for me It’s enough to just get the issue recorded somewhere.