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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (16 children)

Fair point. I’ve edited my initial comment to address abstainers.

As for my grasp on vocabulary:

gaslighting: to psychologically manipulate (someone) usually over time so that the victim experiences doubts about their own emotional or mental stability

Exhibited in your suggestion that conformation bias is clouding my ability to read.

strawman: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

Demonstrated by your argument redirecting the focus to those who are ineligible to vote.

Ready to try again? Although you may have a better chance of convincing someone less literate.

[–] Prunebutt -3 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

Exhibited in your suggestion that conformation bias is clouding my ability to read.

Sorry, that's not gaslighting. I was suggesting that your confirmation bias makes you cherrypick non-voters among all the people criticizing the Dems. It's simply absurd to claim that only abstainers criticize the Dems. I did not try to manipulate you.

Demonstrated by your argument redirecting the focus to those who are ineligible to vote.

You said that "those who didn't vote shouldn't be allowed to complain". I felt included, since I didn't -ote, but I'm not a US citizen. Refusing to steelman your point does not equal strawmanning.

Ready to try again? Although, you may have a better chance of convincing someone less literate.

I'm trembling, when thinking of your literacy. /s 🙄

Stop telling me how great your farts smell.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

I see. So you believe it’s not manipulative to attempt to discredit another’s opinion by repeatedly distracting from their point using well-known bad arguments, all without supporting your own opinion?

It’s no wonder Trump won.

[–] Prunebutt -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Now that's what I call a strawman!

Edit: ... wait, actually, it's not. Your "argument" doesn't even parse.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Prunebutt -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol... ok, Mr./Mrs. "Telling me I'm cherry-picking information and succeptible to confirmation bias (like everyone else is) is literally gaslighting". /s

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yup. By your third comment criticizing my opinion without stating or supporting a counterargument of your own, I assumed you were trolling and began treating you accordingly.

Have a day.

[–] Prunebutt -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You yourself admitted that you claimed bs and edited the comment after I criticized you, but yeah I didn't "support a counterargument." /s 🙄

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

13 of the 15 people that read my comment understood that by “didn’t vote” I meant “abstained.” I only edited to help you and the other person understand the point.

[–] Prunebutt -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Moving the goal posts and appeal to majority.

I think I might actually have a chance at high school in the end, huh? /s

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Once the bar is lowered even further? Yeah sure, why not? Everyone will.

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