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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (29 children)

Right? I found pre-election solace in knowing that even though his cult will never turn on him, he couldn't have possibly gotten MORE supporters in the past 4 years.

Turns out they LOVE the hate and they want more of it.

Sorry, Mindless Americans, it's not Trump's fault anymore, it's YOURS.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 68 points 1 day ago (18 children)

That's what I've come around to. It's not him. He's a figurehead that we apply blame but it's not. It's the people - the public. They want this. They have the fear and the hate, they actively want it. If America didn't want him, they wouldn't have voted him in. Even with tampering/whatever, if America didn't, he wouldn't be there. But America does want him, and that's a very sobering and sad thought to me. I try to live with a simple code - do what you want, as long as it doesn't hurt others. I learned yesterday that most American's don't have similar values.

[–] m_f@midwest.social 36 points 1 day ago (14 children)

IMO that's way off base. People want change. They know they're getting screwed, and the grifter is promising change. He's lying and I think most people know that, but the fact that they'd take a convicted felon over what the DNC offered up is a crushing repudiation.

Bernie would've mopped the floor with Trump, because he also offers change. Someone like Obama would've too, even though there was a paucity of actual change during his terms.

We need to drag the DNC kicking and screaming off of the corporate dick it's sucking, and get it left enough to offer real change, and people will vote for it in droves.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How is voting for a literal past president any kind of change? America chose hate and blame this week.

[–] m_f@midwest.social -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

He will bring lots of change. None of it good, but the DNC should view that as a crushing repudiation of their approach. They can't even blame the Electoral College, they fucked up that badly. Hopefully they'll learn a goddamn thing or two and run someone offering positive change.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago) (1 children)

It was incredibly hard to fight the constant youtube and tiktok right-wing extremism that they've been fed. They've been taught to hate women and minorities so much that they vote for literal Hitler.

[–] m_f@midwest.social 0 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

If you're just some dude, and you've got youtubers saying "you matter and you're cool" on the one hand, and "cis white men suck #KillAllMen", what do you think you'd be attracted to? That's a generalization of course, but identity politics has got to go. We need more of this aesthetic on the left:

Not that exact poster obviously, but we need something that gives people a vision of the future and makes it cool. Until that happens, get ready for more Trump and his ilk.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

Or, so,ething needs to be done about the massive fucking foreign influence from hostile foreign countries. Of course, it allowed the coming fzctionmto sieve power, so it will just get worse.

[–] m_f@midwest.social 1 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

If things didn't suck for so many people, they would've been casting seeds onto stone. It's much, much harder to radicalize someone that's content. Instead, the messages found fertile ground. The solution isn't to just ignore the issue and say "actually everything's fine, look at numbers go up!". It's to give people hope that you're actually fixing the issue.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 12 minutes ago

The entire world experienced massive inflation. Biden's policies brought us out of it better than most 1st world nations. People seem to think trump will bring prices back down. They apparently don't know that deflation is even worse than inflation.

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