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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Here’s the equation. Restaurants keep food costs low by paying servers next to nothing. If they paid them what they deserve, the cost of your meal would increase.

So by not tipping, you are benefiting from the low cost of food while screwing over the person that has no control over the situation. YTA

If you don’t want to tip, don’t go to a restaurant that has servers.

Now, other places that actually pay a living wage and also have a tip button (ie concession stands at a sporting event) can get fucked.

[–] SolarMonkey 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are you suggesting that food prices will go up by more than the cost of the tip tacked on?

Because if not it’s really just more honest pricing, and the same (or reduced) impact on customers, but without having to do math or having the option of being a leech.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If tipping ended and restaurants paid their servers, food prices would go up. That is undeniable.

You are eating at a discount with the expectation that you will pay the owner’s employee for them. Yes, it is unfair and sucks but the one making out like a bandit here is the owner.

So, not tipping is your way of benefiting personally on a discounted meal AND STILL giving the owner money. And the only one you have punished in your equation is a server (the leech???) who is generally living off that tip day to day.

So if you want to make an impact, quit going to restaurants that have tipping as an expectation! That’s it! Otherwise you are just encouraging the owner to keep the status quo!

[–] SolarMonkey 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s not a discount if you are expected to pay more to add a tip.

But dude, quit changing the subject, I’m not talking about people not tipping within the current system, never have been, and neither was the person you originally replied to. I’ve worked tipped positions, so I very much understand how they work.

So again, are you suggesting that if we do away with tipping, costs of food would increase by MORE than the present amount of a tip that gets tacked on? Because that’s the only way prices for the end consumer actually meaningfully raise. Most likely they will actually go down overall. Because again you have to pay the tip too.

You are really bad at reading comprehension btw. That, or you are a piss-poor troll and intentionally misrepresenting literally everything.. the option to be a leech is the customer, who in the present system can skip the tip. Like a leech.

Also, there aren’t any restaurants around me that scrapped tipping, not a single fucking one within at least an hour of where I live, so your suggestion is impossible for me and very privileged.

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