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[–] anachronist@midwest.social 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I saw this as the supposed plan:

per WSJ: It may propose delaying Ukraine's NATO membership for 20 years, establishing a 1,200 km demilitarized zone along the current front line, and leaving 20% of occupied Ukrainian territory under Russian control—while the U.S. would continue arms support under these conditions.

The problem is, this isn't an acceptable plan according to Russia. Russia has insisted that:

  1. Ukraine retreats from all of the oblasts that are currently partially occupied by Russia (Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson) as well as giving up claims to Crimea, and Russia takes ownership of everything without a fight
  2. Ukraine's army is demobilized and Ukraine is demilitarized
  3. Ukraine is banned from joining any international organization, not just NATO (so no EU for instance)
  4. Ukraine receives no more military aid fro the west.

Trump is going to find out that you can't unilaterally declare peace.