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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I can't really blame the Democrats. The public is who failed. The Democrats ran a sane adult. That alone should have been enough to beat Trump.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

The Democrats didn't turn out to vote for Kamala, so yes, you can still blame the Democrats.

[–] normal_user@lemmy.one 3 points 10 hours ago

Some extracts from a great comment from another user on lemmy (readfanon). I'll paste this here seems you seen to think that the Democrats did nothing wrong, it is the "left" voters who failed them :

1-You are chasing the DNC to the right and one day you will wake up and wonder to yourself "How did I end up all the way over here?" I'm not following you into that marsh but you're welcome to go into it yourself, just don't get upset at me when I point out what you're heading into and don't get angry when I refuse to blindly follow you.

2-Historically, fascism has never been stopped at the ballot box. You being convinced that this is possible does not sway my opinion on any matter aside from my estimation of your political awareness and your ability to achieve change.

3-You had four years (eight+ if you count Trump's regime and the lead-up to it in this calculation) to "stop fascism". What did you do in this period of time? Did you push Biden and Kamala to adopt policies which have mass support? Did you do anything except go to back to brunch?

4-You aren't entitled to others' votes. Stop pretending that you are.

5-We aren't splitting the so-called left, Kamala Harris did that all by herself.

6-You have no red lines. There is nothing that could make you not support Kamala Harris and we know it. Telling people to drop their standards and ignore their conscience to vote for Kamala is a fatal strategy and you killed her campaign by deploying it.

7-Almost all of your arguments for voting for Kamala Harris (aside from the "it will stop Trump" argument which, in retrospect, appears to be a dismal failure) also apply to reasons for voting for Trump. "You can push them left", "By voting we will get a seat at the table", "Voting third party or not voting at all is a wasted vote", "We have to vote this way to protect the country", "Politics is about comprise - you cannot expect them to be your perfect political candidate", and whatever hold-your-nose-and-vote arguments you trot out. Did you ever stop to ask yourself why it is that you do not find these arguments for voting Trump to be convincing?

8-Last time Trump got elected you were brutally vindictive. You took glee in the thought of people in red states and marginalised groups suffering due to policy and things like natural disasters, regardless of their politics or how they chose to vote. You were excited to tell these people that they were going to get deported and put into concentration camps. You will do it again this time too because you have learned nothing. November came and these people you targeted with your vicious schadenfreude remembered. They aren't going to forget how effortlessly you abandoned them and how you wished the worst suffering and ill-fate upon them.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

No its not when people are in agony. To them, this is their torch. This is how fascism rises.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We made it through the Recession and COVID-19, but now people are in agony? No fucking way. They chose fascism because they are awful.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Yeah. Fascism rises further because Americans voted for it, not because of the candidate.

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