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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I did in 2016. I was younger and angry at the world. That judgment is deserved. By 2020 I realized that I had made a terrible mistake and was sure not to repeat it. It’s good to read that you can at least understand the perspective of how someone could have at that time.

Some people never learn. This would appear to be the case for most Americans.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think issues are too complicated for uneducated voters to understand when lectured to. People can learn, but many often only in hindsight when they experience something first hand. The educated/uneducated divide sheds light on this so obviously. Which is why it is so frustrating. Not suggesting being educated makes people smarter, but I think people who pursue education are more accepting of lecture. Obviously.

Democrats have to stop and realize this. It's why there is no debate to be had with many Republicans. They don't think about issues through rational extrapolation and curiosity. Everything is an emotional response to the now. They are just wired that way.

I talked with my wife about this a few days ago. Education and economic issues have a huge influence on this.

If you have issues with the huge complexity of the world around you (because of functional illiteracy) or cannot spend some time to form your own opinions (because of economical insecurity and long hours, kids make it even harder), you don't have the capacity to engage with messsages more complex than "immigrants bad" or "Eggs expensive" - stuff that you process emotionally, not intellectually.

I think that's what made Obama's campaign so powerful - everything boiled down to the simple one word message "Change".

[–] Live_your_lives@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What made you change your mind?

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This may not be a satisfying answer, but I went through some hard times between 2016 and 2020 and gained more compassion for how close any of us are to destitution. It became really difficult for me to be as selfish after those years because, well, I appreciated that happens to good people and we don't have a social safety net.

Experience showed me you can make the right choices and still get fucked. I just wish there was a way to teach that lesson that's a little less uh painful.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

That's something I think about a lot. These people need to be humbled, big time. I don't wish them all the bad there is in the world, I don't want them to suffer and die. But I want that fucking selfish arrogance and the entitlement slapped out of them. Experience their fragility.